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      • Gatao
        aloha, salve america latina !
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      • Imbecile9506
        Same artwork but different matrix is considered a different release, right?
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      • reosarevok
        That's very much a "depends on who you ask" question
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      • reosarevok
        There's a pretty long (old) discussion on https://community.metabrainz.org/t/alternate-cd-m…
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      • reosarevok
        I'd generally say "no, it's a repress of the same release unless there's more changes"
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      • reosarevok
        But others might not agree with me
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      • aerozol
        Imbecile9506: I would say if you think it's important then add a new release. Like if you're trying to track a change in value, or a different manufacturer. Otherwise, nah. Add the matrix to the anotation if anything
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      • duncan
        there are some CDs which have a radically different CD mastering, these I think might be entitled to a new releases
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      • duncan
        also Discogs is notorious for adding new pressings (it originates from records where different runouts suggest a different cut), they do group a lot of them together even when the runouts are quite different
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      • duncan
        also->although
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      • duncan
        ECM do this where post-~1990 they add 5 seconds of silence to every disc
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      • duncan
        I think the many Discogs pressings are out of laziness by people selling, which is the primary focus of Discogs in 2023, rather than making the database easier to use or improving its data structure
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      • Imbecile9506
        I've been reading some of the discussion and I agree, I've never liked how Discogs can have like 200 releases for one album with 150 of them having their matrix as the only difference, and didn't realized it was because of the trading Discogs has implemented. Will add it to the annotation as the discid matched the already available entry.
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      • derwin
        if you're buying/selling things, it is actually often pretty relevant
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      • derwin
        if you're primarily tagging things, much less so
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      • reosarevok
        If we ever made a store, I guess we would allow specifically mentioning matrix stuff on the selling posts
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      • reosarevok
        But it'd still make sense IMO to have the release grouped, anyway
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      • duncan
        what we need is a way to link matrix numbers to disc IDs
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      • duncan
        currently we have releases with 40+ disc IDs, there's no way to remove the duff ones except by acquiring all of the discs
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      • duncan
        linking one or more disc IDs to a given disc ID (which is a proxy for mastering) would improve data quality
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      • duncan
        er, linking one or more matrix numbers to a given disc ID
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      • reosarevok
        That's not trivial but also not a bad idea at all
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      • aerozol
        What we need to do is get rid of pre-NGS discIDs /hides
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