if you listen to it on streaming and go to 4:28, you will hear Tom Petty say : "We've come to the point in this album where those listening on cassette, or records, will have to stand up or sit down and turn over the record or tape. In fairness to those listeners, we'll now take a few seconds before we begin side two... Thank you. Here's side two.
2023-03-21 08051, 2023
derwin
this message obviously does not appear on the vinyl and tape versions (I know the latter, because when I was a kid I had the tape version 😅)
I am, unfortunately, relatively unlikely to find the time to fix this, but I thought it was really neat and weird as a clear case where the artist had intent to have different versions for different media.
2023-03-21 08001, 2023
Cheezm___
That may be the only Petty CD I don't have an early pressing of to check the discid. Discogs seems to confirn the run time, but otherwise I would have thought someone just imported the vinyl track times.
2023-03-21 08006, 2023
Cheezm___
I just bought an early CD copy with 4:23 on the cover art so we'll soon find out.
2023-03-21 08006, 2023
Cheezm___
Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues had longer versions on the cassette and edits on the CD (due to fear of not fitting on the CD I guess) but then the CD was later repressed with the longer versions. There are similar cases for other CD's when they were worried what would fit and put an edit on the CD. But this is kind of unique in that it is a longer version on the CD.
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derwin
wow, that's dedication!
2023-03-21 08015, 2023
Cheezm___
Eh, just realizing something was missing from my collection and curiousity!
So I am guessing there are early 4:23 pressings then later ones with the longer version (maybe with the same artwork).
2023-03-21 08037, 2023
Cheezm___
But there are definitley CD discids with the short version out there.
2023-03-21 08045, 2023
ats
derwin: https://musicbrainz.org/release/bad818f4-5232-418… is another example - the 8-track version is divided into tracks differently from the other releases, so "Pigs on the Wing" has an extra guitar solo in the middle to link the two parts together
2023-03-21 08041, 2023
derwin
ats: neat! that's a great album, I should listen to it more
2023-03-21 08022, 2023
derwin
Cheezm___: nice find! yeah I didn't exhaustively look for releases with the 4:23 and a discid
2023-03-21 08012, 2023
Cheezm___
When I get my copy, I'll clean up whichever release it matches. In the mean time I've added the annotation to the long version.
2023-03-21 08022, 2023
Cheezm___
(disambiguation)
2023-03-21 08009, 2023
Cheezm___
With so many discid's on that release, it may be a silent remaster and need to have two releases with the same cover art/barcode, etc. and some disambiguation based on that track length.
Sciencentistguy: The tracks aren't greyed out if you go the Spotify page at least
2023-03-21 08035, 2023
elomatreb[m]
it doesn't let me stream anything at the moment (including other tracks) because of some API errors, so it might just be Spotify being broken
2023-03-21 08005, 2023
atj
Sciencentistguy: I just checked a couple of releases and Spotify is returning a valid list of countries
2023-03-21 08036, 2023
atj
the API response on the one you posted contains "available_markets": []
2023-03-21 08055, 2023
derwin
Sciencentistguy: plays for me fwiw.
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derwin
(in the US)
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iconoclasthero
is there a way to "touch" .flac files in a way that would fix this problem?
2023-03-21 08026, 2023
iconoclasthero
E: 14:18:38,969 /usr/lib/picard/picard/ui/item.error_append:108: <FLACFile '03.flac'>: Stream info block not found
2023-03-21 08028, 2023
iconoclasthero
E: 14:18:38,970 /usr/lib/picard/picard/ui/item.error_append:108: <FLACFile '04.flac'>: Stream info block not found
2023-03-21 08033, 2023
iconoclasthero
those are picard errors
2023-03-21 08037, 2023
iconoclasthero
vlc is playing it right now since I'm listening to it...
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Cheezm___
Could you open and re-encode them with Audacity?
2023-03-21 08033, 2023
duncan
That will technically fix it (you could convert to wav and re-encode as flac as well) but it will just encode the error. It likely is a corrupted file.
2023-03-21 08015, 2023
duncan
VLC will play corrupt FLACs just fine, so will a bunch of players, it doesn't mean the file isn't buggy though
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duncan
VLC will play corrupt FLACs just fine, so will a bunch of players, it doesn't mean the file isn't buggy though
2023-03-21 08055, 2023
Cheezm___
Pretty sure if Audacity will open it around the error/corruption it will create a clean version encoding it again.
2023-03-21 08030, 2023
Cheezm___
But that is the first step to see if any editing/conversion software can read it without reporting an error.
2023-03-21 08055, 2023
duncan
it'll create a clean final output but it will encode whatever the error is as a gap or 'zit'
2023-03-21 08029, 2023
duncan
it depends on the corruption but if it's possible to source a clean version, that's obviously preferable
2023-03-21 08000, 2023
Cheezm___
Depends what kind of error it is, sounds like some kind of header info. (Or could even be a bug in Picard not parsing something correctly).
2023-03-21 08041, 2023
duncan
if it's sourced from some torrent, I'd assume it's an actual error, either the torrent didn't finish or was corrupt in the first place
2023-03-21 08019, 2023
duncan
if it's sourced from a CD rip, I'd just rip the disc again and then report a bug if it's actually clean
2023-03-21 08002, 2023
duncan
first thing I'd do is run 'flac -t', that checks the actual stream content against the checksum
2023-03-21 08037, 2023
duncan
well, 'flac -wst' is the best
2023-03-21 08011, 2023
Sciencentistguy
do the ETI rules for english extend to other languages as well?
