hey, what's the deal with left and right quotes, vs unhanded quotes?
2024-04-21 11246, 2024
iconoclast_hero
i was just doing fighting with beets and i saw that it wanted to tag stuff with handed single quotes.
2024-04-21 11207, 2024
iconoclast_hero
how does picard translate %title$ to a file name if it has handed quotes in it?
2024-04-21 11241, 2024
iconoclast_hero
i looked and I have 13 right single quotes in my library on 60k songs, so picard's saving as ' ?
2024-04-21 11214, 2024
iconoclast_hero
(that should be e.g., %title% & strike doing in front of fighting with beets)
2024-04-21 11222, 2024
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Erin
the one thing that might be notable
2024-04-21 11210, 2024
Erin
ascii does not contain curly quotes
2024-04-21 11219, 2024
Erin
not sure if that's a factor
2024-04-21 11243, 2024
Erin
but you would have to go to unicode to use htem
2024-04-21 11237, 2024
Erin
so not sure what the MB rules might be/are, but I would personally lean toward straight quotes for maximum compatibility
2024-04-21 11228, 2024
discordbrainz
<06julian45> "Use of basic ASCII punctuation characters such as ' and " is allowed, but typographically-correct punctuation (such as ’ for the English apostrophe) is preferred." (https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Miscellaneous)
2024-04-21 11252, 2024
Erin
interesting
2024-04-21 11259, 2024
iconoclast_hero
you're not going to see me entering typographically-correct 's
2024-04-21 11207, 2024
iconoclast_hero
anyway, not the question.
2024-04-21 11211, 2024
iconoclast_hero
what does picard do about them?
2024-04-21 11224, 2024
iconoclast_hero
well, it was part of the question...
2024-04-21 11254, 2024
Erin
im not sure
2024-04-21 11203, 2024
Erin
compatibility is a legit concern but
2024-04-21 11204, 2024
iconoclast_hero
julian45, there's not a bot that goes through and changes them is there?
2024-04-21 11218, 2024
Erin
given anime's tendency to have weird shit like hearts in titles, picard probably supports unicode
2024-04-21 11219, 2024
discordbrainz
<06julian45> not that i know of
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discordbrainz
<06julian45> and yes picard definitely supports unicode
2024-04-21 11241, 2024
Erin
so yeah, it probably just works either way
2024-04-21 11253, 2024
discordbrainz
<06julian45> speaking as someone who has put through lots of japanese titles and also funky punctuation through it
2024-04-21 11202, 2024
Erin
also depending on your interface and engine, it might not even matter
2024-04-21 11224, 2024
Erin
engine? i meant to say font
2024-04-21 11228, 2024
Erin
how did i do that XD
2024-04-21 11250, 2024
iconoclast_hero
I'm not at all happy having to deal with 'Khruangbin -- เครื่องบิน (2011)' on the command line, however... it's a bit different then throwing in handed 's for aesthetic reasons.
2024-04-21 11204, 2024
Erin
...my irc client needs to get unicode support
2024-04-21 11234, 2024
iconoclast_hero
what happens with the tags is largely irrelevant since i almost never deal with tags on the cli or need to enter handed quotes in the gui... however, if picard puts them in the file names, then i need to get a naming script or something to comb through my tagged/outgoing directory to convert them back.
<06julian45> personally i have my picard installation add tags, but leave filenames alone, and then i use my player/library manager to handle file renaming later if i want to
2024-04-21 11230, 2024
iconoclast_hero
i have replace non-ascii off and windows compat off.
2024-04-21 11243, 2024
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2024-04-21 11238, 2024
iconoclast_hero
$replacemulti(name,search,replace[,separator])
2024-04-21 11238, 2024
iconoclast_hero
`$replacemulti(%mypath%,’,')`
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iconoclast_hero
?
2024-04-21 11251, 2024
iconoclast_hero
and just go through the other 4 in the naming script?
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iconoclast_hero
3
2024-04-21 11230, 2024
aerozol[m]
I don’t know script stuff off the top of my head, but should be the way!
2024-04-21 11232, 2024
aerozol[m]
I’m still waking up, just saw you’re only concerned with file names. I’m actually not sure if Picard puts curlies in those. I’ll look for a release to check (if nobody gets there first)
2024-04-21 11217, 2024
iconoclast_hero
oh...
2024-04-21 11222, 2024
iconoclast_hero
because that didn't work.
2024-04-21 11251, 2024
iconoclast_hero
i'm not 100% on what replacemulti does since it has setmulti first and I'm just cleaning my entire path of the handed quotes.
2024-04-21 11217, 2024
iconoclast_hero
i haven't broken my naming script yet, so that's good.
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aerozol[m]
I just double checked running an album with a curly through Picard, and the filename seems to just use the standard '
2024-04-21 11226, 2024
aerozol[m]
So your filenames may be coming from elsewhere
2024-04-21 11241, 2024
Erin
w00t i think i fixed the asian script problem in hexchat
2024-04-21 11244, 2024
iconoclast_hero
actually, my question was...
2024-04-21 11205, 2024
iconoclast_hero
i looked and I have 13 right single quotes in my library on 60k songs, so picard's saving as ' ?
2024-04-21 11219, 2024
iconoclast_hero
so i was just making sure that was the case. those 13?
2024-04-21 11227, 2024
iconoclast_hero
probably bootlegs i haven't checked in
2024-04-21 11241, 2024
aerozol[m]
Gotcha! Sorry if I misled you
2024-04-21 11247, 2024
iconoclast_hero
np
2024-04-21 11204, 2024
Erin
hm
2024-04-21 11205, 2024
Erin
interesting
2024-04-21 11211, 2024
iconoclast_hero
i just don't want to e.g., activate beets and then have all these handed quotes everywhere
2024-04-21 11215, 2024
Erin
ntfs does support unicode so it shouldnt be windows doing it to you
2024-04-21 11221, 2024
aerozol[m]
Those accursed bootlegs that really aren’t valid for addition to MB. The blight of my library
2024-04-21 11255, 2024
Erin
out of curiosity, can you rename the file using a handed quote?
2024-04-21 11201, 2024
Erin
like, manually
2024-04-21 11235, 2024
iconoclast_hero
8 of the 13 are from youtube-dl, 1's a text file, and there are a couple of others...
2024-04-21 11208, 2024
iconoclast_hero
if you're asking about me, that library's on btrfs.
2024-04-21 11257, 2024
Erin
i think btrfs supports unicode
2024-04-21 11245, 2024
iconoclast_hero
i got to hand it to that scripting language, i hate using it, but every time I want to do something, I manage to accomplish it.
2024-04-21 11238, 2024
Erin
its always fun to get stuff done like that
2024-04-21 11256, 2024
Erin
one of my big problems with music is badly defined files, or converting types
2024-04-21 11230, 2024
Erin
i wrote some powershell command modules to wrap ffmpeg for that, and recently set it up to be parallelized
2024-04-21 11210, 2024
iconoclast_hero
Erin: here's my solution for that, though there's some info at the bottom to look at in the future
