That said, if you were only comfortable uploading the parts of the art containing credits but not the liner texts and whatnot, that'd be perfectly fine 🤷‍♂️
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MonkeyPython
[08:09] reosarevok[m] That said, if you were only comfortable uploading the parts of the art containing credits but not the liner texts and whatnot, that'd be perfectly fine 🤷‍♂️
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MonkeyPython
this.
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MonkeyPython
for example for books this becomes an obvious distinction.
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lw
crap, i just added a bunch of recording relationships to the wrong person... who knew there could be two separate US audio engineers both called Andy Gibson?
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lw
labels really should start putting MBIDs in the liner notes to avoid situations like this
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lw
so i have this album, but mine is in a jewel case: https://musicbrainz.org/release/706367c2-5a9b-4f2… - is it possible that the digipak release and jewel case release both have the same barcode? i know labels do weird things with barcodes...
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crism
Barcodes do get repeated across what I would call reprintings… Barcodes are mostly for inventory management, and since the days of the long-boxes, the package doesn’t really matter to them. But since it’s part of the primary release data in MBz, I would say different packaging warrants a different release.
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lw
more confusing example: my copy of this album https://musicbrainz.org/release/5baacafd-c206-4f2… has the same barcode but is published by a different label (People Like You Records, same as the other release)... i'm guessing this must the EU releaser
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lw
although apparently they're an imprint of Century Media
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lw
discogs.com makes this even more confusing because they have a different barcode for the US release, the MB barcode is listed as the EU release on discogs. gah
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lw
can i split this into two separate releases based on the discogs entries? the original data source for MB was apparently Amazon which i would consider dubious
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lw
also the credits for this album are printed as light yellow text on a white background and are literally unreadable, good job art department
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lw
why are there so many III people in American music? Wayne Hancock III, Hank Williams III, John McTigue III...
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discordbrainz
<04elomatreb> lw: if you are in doubt, splitting is probably fine
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lw
i'm not 100% sure splitting it would be more correct, tbh
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lw
although since mine does have a different label printed on the back i guess that's sufficient to split it
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discordbrainz
<04elomatreb> possibly, but merging a duplicate is easier than untangling a wrongly unified release
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discordbrainz
<04elomatreb> yes, if there are any printed differences it's a new MB release
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discordbrainz
<04elomatreb> (not sure if you're serious about the III message, but that's a roman numeral)
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discordbrainz
<04elomatreb> (as in "Wayne Hancock the Third")
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lw
oh yeah i know, it's just how many people seem to have it specifically in this kind of music. i just ran into another one checking something else on this album
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discordbrainz
<04elomatreb> probably a generational thing
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lw
there's a credit on this album which i can't read and it's missing from discogs' entry.... "Police <something>"? i think it's meant to be 'police scanner'
they also misprinted the title of the track in the liner notes. i'd almost wonder if this is a bootleg printing of the album but who would bother to bootleg some obscure country album?
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lw
hmm, the 'sound effects' relationship type doesn't have a free-text field like 'instruments' does, but i can't find a suitable 'instrument' relationship ('sounds effects' is apparently about fx processors)
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lw
i guess i'll just list it as 'instruments' with the actual credit in a text field
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lw
oh it's also completely missing the credits for one track. what the heck
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lw
but discogs has them somehow
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lw
crism: ironically the art/design credit is completely unreadable which is probably for the best!
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lw
... unless you're looking for someone to design your next album and want to avoid whoever did this one
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lw
incidentally a lot of these 'III' people seem to be associated in some way with Hank Williams III (like Bob Wayne to started as a roadie for him), i wonder if they added it to their own names for that reason :-)
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lw
i wonder if hankie the third managed to avoid his dad's shitty politics
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lw
i learnt the other day that Jon Schaffer of Iced Earth was one of the jan 6 rioters, which... on the one hand is not surprising given the content of his songs but also like, wtf
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lw
ah good to know
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lw
if a publisher is associated with a rights society (like ASCAP) what relationship do i use to indicate that?
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lw
or is that a property of the work rather than the label?
