i wish there was a good ripper for linux that could do accuraterip
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JollyRgrs
Cheezmo_: yeah, not really a concern for file name b/c it'll have a file ext. added to the end of it. more just an issue for album/artist names (for the folders)
it doesn't like using name placeholders properly no matter what i do to it
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zayd
which isn't that big of a problem now that i think about it as i use picard anyways
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Cheezmo_
Hmm. In MacOS, the folder becomes "R.E.M_" not sure when that happens.
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zayd
Cheezmo_: i would've expected macos to behave more closely to how linux does for that but i guess their fs is pretty weird too
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lazybookwyrm[m]
Whipper embeds mbids so it should be super easy to put them into picard to change the naming
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lazybookwyrm[m]
I use whipper > beets
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zayd
lazybookwyrm[m]: oh shit does it? i'll give it another chance in that case
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zayd
i've heard of beets before but never seen much of a point, what does it offer over picard?
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aerozol[m]
Picard will not end files with a trailing dot by default, for obvious reasons
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lazybookwyrm[m]
beets is similar to picard, but command line and keeps track of all the music in it. So can edit your naming format in your config then run a command to make everything in your library match that naming format.
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lazybookwyrm[m]
Also has a plugin that lets you run a command to sync your library with any new musicbrainz edits
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zayd
lazybookwyrm[m]: i just throw my music directories into picard whenever i need to update
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zayd
back into*
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lazybookwyrm[m]
The one caveat with Whipper is it uses discids. So discid needs to be in musicbrainz. And if you're picky about your rip being matched to the exact release you'll need to check if the discid is correct or on multiple releases. But I like it overall
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zayd
i still have it installed, so once i'm done tagging my current batch i'll give it a try
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zayd
lazybookwyrm[m]: would it be possible to make whipper encode to monkey's audio instead of flac or is that hardcoded
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zayd
i might be one of three people that actually uses .ape but i still consider it better than flac
duckfromdisc[m]: i do too, but i'm considering switching
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zayd
i've heard that wine can cause accuracy issues in some rare cases but i've never seen this in my own logs
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zayd
so it mostly comes down to being able to use things natively for me
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duckfromdisc[m]
oh youre on linux?
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zayd
duckfromdisc[m]: yeah
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duckfromdisc[m]
hm... i wonder what happens if you rip the same disc from linux and windows both on EAC
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zayd
i'm pretty sure that whipper is linux only either way
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duckfromdisc[m]
the weirdest problem i've had is that if you have the Dokan kernel driver installed, EAC hangs when you try and open a file dialog.
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lazybookwyrm[m]
Never heard of monkey's audio, don't think whipper has it though
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zayd
lazybookwyrm[m]: it's the full name for the codec .ape files use
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duckfromdisc[m]
wait so ppl actually use .ape files?
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zayd
duckfromdisc[m]: i do
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zayd
they offer better compression and i have hardware capable of decoding them just as quickly as flac
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duckfromdisc[m]
is it lossless or lossy?
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zayd
lossless
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zayd
recently the encoder went open too
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duckfromdisc[m]
what makes you prefer ape over flac?
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zayd
idk what's going on with the wikipedia page though, it says the encoder is bsd 3 clause but also not an open format
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zayd
duckfromdisc[m]: as i said before better compression while also not causing performance issues on my setup
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duckfromdisc[m]
neat
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zayd
flac doesn't cause issues either, but one of the main criticisms of monkey's audio is that it does
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duckfromdisc[m]
OH ok
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zayd
which it doesn't for me, even on the highest compression
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duckfromdisc[m]
i was gonna say. gotcha that makes sense
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zayd
i've realized recently that cds are such a calm format to back up and store compared to something like blu-ray or even dvd
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duckfromdisc[m]
i need a better backup system
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duckfromdisc[m]
i just can't afford much storage. unfortunately my backup is just copying stuff
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zayd
i might buy more storage sometime soon
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zayd
duckfromdisc[m]: you can get decent seagate drives for fairly cheap
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zayd
my main storage is a (sadly smr) 8TB barracuda i got for $99
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zayd
5400RPM HDD, but that's more than enough for music and even hd video
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duckfromdisc[m]
smr?
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zayd
Shingled Magnetic Recording
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duckfromdisc[m]
personally like id just use EAC and picard bc i dont rip CDs often enough to warrant autotagging
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duckfromdisc[m]
oh never heard of that interesting
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zayd
according to datahoarder wiki
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zayd
3>SMR allows for more tracks per platter whilst using larger write heads by overlapping the tracks, this results in a slow write speed for SMR drives.
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duckfromdisc[m]
ah so more space but slower
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zayd
it's an issue if you want to do RAID or ZFS but should be fine otherwise
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duckfromdisc[m]
recently another member here got me into picard so ive been using it and adding my own stuff lately. but basically every CD ive had to rip (so like two ever) was on musicbrainz and/or whatever EAC uses
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duckfromdisc[m]
i wonder if my ripped CDs are in my picard lib rn
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duckfromdisc[m]
oh they are! and my log too!
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duckfromdisc[m]
ripped a very scratched CD and only one track was marked as inaccurate, and i couldn't even hear the difference. i wonder how EAC works
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zayd
i wonder what a survey of currently-used music players would look like these days
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JollyRgrs
plexamp has been mny recent one, except just plex media player for dvd-a/sacd (plexamp can't do surround sound)
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zayd
i use ncmpcpp (mpd) most of the time and mpv for stuff that hasn't been properly sorted into my mpd library yet
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ivy
is there a way i can see my votable edits which were rejected?
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reosarevok[m]
There should be links for that from your profile IIRC
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ivy
ah, thanks. (apparently i do not have any, that's good)
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aerozol[m]
Congrats. No xxtreme editing though!?
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ivy
i only edit obscure albums no one else owns so no one can see how bad my edits are :-d
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aerozol[m]
Haha that works too!
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lazybookwyrm[m]
The secret is to cancel edits when you see you might lose
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JollyRgrs
oh that edit? HAHA! JK!!!!!!!
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ivy
lazybookwyrm[m]: i did do that once but only because i was persuaded by edit comment that my edit was wrong
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aerozol[m]
I start a new account whenever I get a downvote (this is a joke)
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ivy
that sounds like something i might actually do
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JollyRgrs
hey ivy146, any significance to the number 146? lol
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ivy
JollyRgrs: i have no idea... are you using the Matrix gateway? maybe that added a number to my nick for some reason
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JollyRgrs
ivy: it was a joke that you changed your nick that many times b/c of bad edits
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ivy
oh :-d
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JollyRgrs
i'm not sure if that miss is saying my dad joke was REALLY GOOD... or REALLY BAD
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JollyRgrs
i'll just see myself out now
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aerozol[m]
For real though, no shame in a few downvotes
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ivy
that awful feeling when you're browsing your music collection and you find an album "(CD 3)"@
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ivy
time to visit rutracker and find some files with more correct tags
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JollyRgrs
ivy: oof
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leftmostcatUTC-7
<aerozol[m]> "For real though, no shame in a..." <- I was going to say something snarky about my tenure at MusicBrainz and then I realized I joined sixteen years ago and now I just feel old.
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JollyRgrs
leftmostcatUTC-7: tbh, i'd assume that MOST people who are ripping something old like "CDs"... are also old like us (it hurt me to type that out, btw)
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duckfromdisc[m]
i mean...
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duckfromdisc[m]
i'm not old and i ripped some cds
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duckfromdisc[m]
im not the youngest person on the internet but i'm not 50+ years old either
