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No idea. All I know is that when I ripped disc 1, the track was in my hard drive and when I ripped disc 2 it was not

Hey good people, I'm trying to use Picard to submit a new CDID. While I'm pushing the `Submit disk ID` I get the following error in the debub log... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/...>)

Another fun question: I'm doing a classical album but there are a small number of songs that don't have a known composer. What do I use as the artist in that casE?

Do I use the `[unknown]` artist?

Never mind. It looks like I should use `[traditional]`

[traditional] or [anonymous] or [unknown] are all acceptable options depending on what is more appropriate

Re: the tracklist vs reality thing, use reality, but indicate the clash in the annotation so nobody wants to "fix" it

reosarevok[m]: I went for `[traditional]` because it would be really neat if we discovered who composed the song, so it isn't fundamentally undiscoverable (rules out `[anonymous]`) and there isn't any more research I could personally do to find out (which, to me, seems to rule out `[unknown]`).

reosarevok[m]: As for the tracklist thing - how do I indicate that? As a note on my edit?

Annotation on the release

(and also on your edit I guess, yes, but annotation is easier to see later at first glance)

Sounds good and will do. Thanks!

kellnerd: ping :)

reosarevok: Fully here now.

Hi!

I was thinking about STYLE-2589

STYLE-2589: add non-music genres for audiobooks/audio dramas https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-2589

My worry, if I should worry, is that something like "science fiction" is I'm sure also a tag used for lots of music :)

(but it's not really a genre there, is it)

https://musicbrainz.org/tag/science%20fiction has a bunch of black metal bands for example

Interesting, the Rush Wikipedia article states:

> Rush were known for their virtuosic musicianship, complex compositions and eclectic lyrical motifs, which drew primarily on science fiction, fantasy and philosophy

In that case science fiction and fantasy actually make sense as genre

So if the tag refers to lyrics I see how it is meant as a genre, but I can also imagine instrumental music tagged as fantasy because it was used in a fantasy movie or TV show, that doesn't feel as much as a genre.

I mean, I can imagine tons of "dungeon synth" music and stuff like "music for your d&d tavern" that would be instrumental and tagged fantasy

Which is a perfectly good tag, just not sure if it's a genre for music 😅

More of a descriptor I guess?

Right, but I guess that is also an issue for some existing MB genres which are rather ambiguous tags.

e.g. https://musicbrainz.org/tag/noise

Yes, probably - the only significant difference being they're actual music genres :)

Left a comment on that ticket - discussion welcome, anyway

I think we should add them eventually, we could I guess have some hackish name for them like "science fiction audio" or whatnot, but that also feels a bit stupid 😅

The Wikipedia pages of some other suggested genres are called "X fiction" to make it more obvious, but that trick doesn't work for science fiction.

If you are looking into audio drama related style tickets, STYLE-655 / STYLE-2363 (the artist-work relationship!) is still my most wanted one, by the way :)

STYLE-655: Add a specific "script writer" relationship for Artist-Work https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-655

STYLE-2363: "adapted / adaptor" Artist-Release relationship https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-2363

And if ambiguity is the problem holding up this ticket, I wouldn't mind having a very narrow "dramatized by" rel type instead of a wider "adapted by".

science fiction fiction!

neachdainn_, reosarevok[m], kellnerd: IMO, [traditional] is for a work that has been handed down through multiple people, and probably changed along the way, such that even if one person wrote it at some point, what we have now is the result of many contributors, known and unknown, like a typical folk song or fiddle tune. [anonymous] is for a work that probably has a single composition event from one person or a small number of peo

le, but we don’t know who they are, e.g. an unsigned mediæval manuscript. [unknown] is whoever made the album was lazy and I can’t figure it out.

That sounds about right 😅

hi. was wondering if resizing album artwork is finally supported or still idling in TODO-hell ?

MusicBrainz servers have been updated.

[11:58] kellnerd[m] The Wikipedia pages of some other suggested genres are called "X fiction" to make it more obvious, but that trick doesn't work for science fiction.

science fiction fiction ;D

Could do with more science fiction being fiction these days.

seems that some cover images are loading on musicbrainz.org now (hopefully not temporary)

You should have deployed the warning page earlier, that seems to have fixed it 🪄

😁

uploading isn't possible yet, likely read-only for now

I updated the banner message accordingly.

thats weird i cant get any images at all

i might be lying

thats so weird archive.org wasnt loading when i said that

15 min ago actually not just then

duckfromdisc[m]: you are, I presume, aware of the archive.org issues of the last week or two?

yeah

i obviously know that they were down but it was weird that cover art archive wasnt working for me but was working for everyone else and then came back within 15 min despite the main archive.org site not working that's really it

For classical music, I set the track artist to the composer and then go into the recording entry and change the artist there to the person who actually played the piece, right?

Or is that something I do in the "relationships" tab?

neachdainn_: there's a whole "classical style guide" page

I've read it, but I'm new enough to this that I'm not 100% sure I'm able to read it correctly

I'm also entering music from a textbook, which complicates things. E.g., the CD breaks each song up into multiple tracks - I'm pretty sure I want a single recording for the song that each track links to, instead of recordings for every single track, right? And if that's the case, how can I get the length correct?