#musicbrainz

outsidecontext: https://github.com/denizenging/picard-sozler

cc: denizenging (@_discord_607147513623085068:chatbrainz.org)

julian45: thanks. cool, didn't know about this plugin.

I first thought sozler would be some kind of online project, but when searching for it I only found various Turkish websites. "Sözler" is Turkish and means "words" in English. Knowing that the plugin name makes a lot of sense :)

* means "words" or as I understand "lyrics" in English.

omg, "time parser" is magic

<outsidecontext[m> "I first thought sozler would..." <- “şarkı sözleri” means lyrics but generally you don’t strictly have to put şarkı (song) in front of it since context is usually there

elkiensad: thanks for explaining

aerozol, yvanzo, bitmap: I just saw MBS-13804 - wondering, should we do the same for reviews as we do for blogs, and have a "Review" generic entry with its own logo? Possibly saying "Review (video)" or something if we know it's video rather than text?

MBS-13804: Modify the display of review links in the sidebar https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-13804

It seems sensible to me but I wouldn't mind some opinions :)

Do you have examples of what “we do for blogs”?

} else if (/^blog$/.test(linkType.name)) {... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/...>)

Before it goes to the usual favicon and name check

I mean real examples with mb.o URLs?

I'll edit-search some

So just show a similar icon, and "Review" for text I guess and either "Review" for video too or if doable, "Video review" or "Review (video)"

OK, we don't have any relationship attribute taken into account for selecting the icon so far, right?

No, hence wondering how easy it is. It's probably doable since we do check relationship. stuff there

I don’t think it is worth it, honestly.

However, I fully agree that it is expected to have an icon for reviews.

So just do "Review" for everything and let people hover to see if it's youtube or whatever?

yes

Ok, can do

There are tickets related to it.

Other tickets? Links? :)

I will develop more about why I don’t think it is worth it at the moment: This is a can of worms, it requires deep refactoring of code, and it is out of current priorities (that I can remind if you forgot about).

Oh, I was more thinking "I can do the video thing if it's trivial because we already have the data", not if we need to do any deep refactoring anywhere :)

Yes, the trivial bits are welcome :)

But I know the related tickets are longer term.

Ah, ok, that's what you meant

np

I was thinking maybe you meant this ticket was a duplicate

No, I don’t think there was anything about reviews specifically. It is a small improvement until everything gets reworked.

Perfect, thanks

yvanzo: we use stuff from this set for those sidebar icons: https://www.iconfinder.com/iconsets/cc_mono_ico...

What do you think would work for review? https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/42282/notepad_... https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/42289/edit_pen... and https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/42344/chat_spe... are my current ideas, but

For example:

I hope there is some kind of queue which stores failed CAA update tasks for releases which got merged while the IA is being in read-only mode?

reosarevok: Of these 3 icons, the bubble looks to be the most appropriate to me, as we use a bubble in CB logo too. But anything trivial and approved by aerozol would work :)

My only worry with the bubble is that we already use https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/42347/line_spe... for blog so it might be a bit confusing

But I mean, it says "Review" on the side, so 🤷‍♂️

kellnerd: Good question. There is a queue for some CAA updates, so something has been saved. For the details, dig the artwork-indexer repository or ask bitmap for detailed explanations.

reosarevok: Right, maybe the blog icon isn’t a good fit either.

I don't necessarily disagree but changing that is a bigger change. I mean, not code-wise, just... for users, maybe? :)

But let's see what aerozol thinks!

<yvanzo[m]> "kellnerd: Good question. There..." <- yes there is, I'll just have to re-queue the failed events by hand once uploads are back

where would i go to request the genre 'signalslush' to be added?

i see it's a tag but i'd like it to be a genre

honestly imho the icon https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/42347/line_spe... fits for review and https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/... fits for blog imho :DD

<duckfromdisc[m]> "where would i go to request..." <- Is that another vapour microgenre? Probably not going to add all of those tbh, there's a billion

its a subgenre of slushwave which itself, yes, is a subgenre of vaporwave but it's a very big one

ive made both

"signalwave" is a genre in musicbrainz, it's called broken transmission with signalwave as an alias

is that the same?

i was in a huge rush and forgot this important part of what i wrote: it's a combination

its signalwave + slushwave

i know ive made a huge fool of myself here saying its not necessarily a microgenre lol

Asking for new genres is relatively straightforward. I would recommend cloning an existing genre request ticket on the ticket tracker and then swapping out what’s needed to change it to your requested genre.

Here’s one: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-2171 (you might want to add more links/reasoning than that one. Linking to the genre on RYM can be good, for example)

STYLE-2171: Signalwave

dang

nicolas really took the time to do the research and realize those two are the same

sorta.. i mean even i dont know the difference so its nice that he did that

reosarevok: will then either implement the genre or ask questions or mark as “won’t do”, he is quick with genres (unless it’s a really confusing one!)

RYM really is king with this kind of thing I think, such a comprehensive description here: https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/broken-transmis...

isn't broken transmission usually short and slushwave long? i have to hear this sometime 🤔 never knew there was a fusion between the two

btw, nicolas tamargo = reosarevok