but its not allowed here. shouldnt it be allowed/preferred like youtube canonical links are
2024-12-20 35526, 2024
minimal joined the channel
2024-12-20 35559, 2024
lazybookwyrm[m]
Yeah, the internet is a bigger killer of buying media than anything
2024-12-20 35539, 2024
lazybookwyrm[m]
Pirating's mostly replaced by streaming now, but if streaming ever becomes inconvenient it'll probably come back
2024-12-20 35515, 2024
lazybookwyrm[m]
Seems to be more recently for movies and TV with how annoying streaming is getting for them
2024-12-20 35535, 2024
hypeventure[m]
<lazybookwyrm[m]> "Yeah, the internet is a bigger..." <- Right and I gotta admit. I still had a collection of tracks in wav/flac/aiff format
2024-12-20 35501, 2024
hypeventure[m]
These are high quality, and it's meant for sets I do, or sampling
2024-12-20 35513, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Or use as a reference material
2024-12-20 35546, 2024
tagomago has quit
2024-12-20 35525, 2024
crism
I *paid* DistroKid to put my music on multiple channels… so far, it’s been a net negative. *shrug* (It did not get me on Spotify; no idea how to crack that without a label.)
2024-12-20 35532, 2024
aerozol[m]
DistroKid should definitely have gotten you on Spotify? I used CDbaby and it put it on all the distros, I thought the others would too. Maybe you had to opt in (or they latched on an extra fee or something, but that would be weird)
2024-12-20 35558, 2024
crism
DistroKid says they submitted to Spotify. Some of the services took up to a year to show up; maybe Spotify is just tired of sea chanteys. (I don’t seem to be on Pandora either.)
hypeventure[m] uploaded an audio file: (94KiB) < https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/VJXegeGXdLknlPdFHLpZejkM/recording1734662002383126.ogg >
2024-12-20 35546, 2024
aerozol[m]
Huh, maybe things have changed in the last couple of years, it went up on all platforms after a few days when I last did it
2024-12-20 35547, 2024
scrumplex_ joined the channel
2024-12-20 35549, 2024
scrumplex has quit
2024-12-20 35529, 2024
aerozol[m]
Interestingly the only place that has really paid $ is some tracks being played by college radio in the US, and the odd Apple purchase/stream
2024-12-20 35554, 2024
hypeventure[m] uploaded an audio file: (525KiB) < https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/sIaFlWuZwaoTXhTHbQhfVSKH/recording1734662272625518.ogg >
2024-12-20 35536, 2024
hypeventure[m] uploaded an audio file: (329KiB) < https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/xzeYbvlqJFQpBCfMnIcbRrjj/recording1734662397269870.ogg >
2024-12-20 35512, 2024
aerozol[m]
Oh man, definitely don’t lock into a monthly payment imo! I would just pay up front. CDBaby doesn’t take a cut it’s just a flat fee to upload something, forever
2024-12-20 35528, 2024
aerozol[m]
Obviously it costs more up front though, but F repeated payments
2024-12-20 35523, 2024
aerozol[m]
To be honest I don’t even know how distributors justify a ongoing cost. As far as I can tell they do very little once the music is on the platforms, just report and send earnings/plays back to you
2024-12-20 35544, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Yea
2024-12-20 35552, 2024
hypeventure[m]
And that is pretty much what they do
2024-12-20 35505, 2024
hypeventure[m]
They are just the bridges for dsp and labels
2024-12-20 35513, 2024
hypeventure[m]
They don't have to be that serious
2024-12-20 35551, 2024
aerozol[m]
Looks like CDBaby lowered their prices, 10USD to upload an album to all platforms. But they take 9%
2024-12-20 35558, 2024
aerozol[m]
f$&^ing middle-men
2024-12-20 35523, 2024
aerozol[m]
But if you’re not expecting massive plays a % cut is much better than a monthly fee
2024-12-20 35527, 2024
aerozol[m]
9% of a few cents :P
2024-12-20 35542, 2024
aerozol[m]
Bandcamp for life though
2024-12-20 35538, 2024
hypeventure[m] uploaded an audio file: (308KiB) < https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/pkZyyLJhYsRVhpQGDQvEzxfO/%3E%20%3C%40aerozol%3Amatrix.org%3E%20f%24%26%5Eing%20middle-men%0A%0Arecording1734665220052176.ogg >
2024-12-20 35553, 2024
hypeventure[m]
SoundCloud next pro is even worse, including fl studio subscriptions linked with distrokid
2024-12-20 35509, 2024
hypeventure[m]
I hate that xxx records dks in the name
2024-12-20 35507, 2024
hypeventure[m]
*at least tunecore is better than distrokid in terms of pricing, 50 bucks per year
2024-12-20 35526, 2024
hypeventure[m]
(and I don't even have an option to pay monthly, yay)
2024-12-20 35532, 2024
hypeventure[m]
:(
2024-12-20 35539, 2024
crism
DistroKid is a small annual fee (or, a bigger payment to ensure perpetuity). A friend recommended it as worthwhile, but I have since learned he may be insane. Oh, well. I have a day job. Bandcamp is my primary channel, though most of my revenue comes from in-person CD sales, still.
2024-12-20 35520, 2024
hypeventure[m]
crism: I never been attempt to selling CDs before btw
2024-12-20 35546, 2024
Opus has quit
2024-12-20 35555, 2024
hypeventure[m]
People just music streaming so here in my region, CD is not a mainstream thing anymore
2024-12-20 35507, 2024
aerozol[m]
Not 10$ per song btw, 10$ per album
2024-12-20 35511, 2024
crism
I play festivals in my specialty genre; CDs still sell well there. Raves, probably not so much…
2024-12-20 35535, 2024
hypeventure[m]
aerozol[m]: Yeah I know
2024-12-20 35551, 2024
hypeventure[m]
But a bunch of releases
2024-12-20 35504, 2024
hypeventure[m]
This is a problem
2024-12-20 35530, 2024
aerozol[m]
Still better than an annual or monthly fee imo
2024-12-20 35513, 2024
aerozol[m]
If $10 is too much for you to spend per release, then I’m not sure what value your label is offering? I suppose it depends what the wages are in your country, but that’s a pretty minimal cost. My complaint is just that there’s basically no return so what’s the point
2024-12-20 35523, 2024
aerozol[m]
At least you can release everything on Bandcamp for free, see how it goes
2024-12-20 35501, 2024
aerozol[m]
What does 50 a year get you :S
2024-12-20 35551, 2024
Opus joined the channel
2024-12-20 35514, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Lol
2024-12-20 35530, 2024
hypeventure[m]
<aerozol[m]> "If $10 is too much for you to..." <- I was plan to making my label as a platform
2024-12-20 35543, 2024
hypeventure[m]
It's not just the home for my music but also for everyone else
2024-12-20 35510, 2024
aerozol[m]
What do you mean? You have to go through a distributor no matter what afaik. e.g. I upload via CDBaby but put my label into the label field
2024-12-20 35522, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Oh you could...
2024-12-20 35539, 2024
hypeventure[m]
<aerozol[m]> "If $10 is too much for you to..." <- Now I rethink about it... Yeah definitely you right
2024-12-20 35512, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Upload for once and it will be remain forever
2024-12-20 35515, 2024
aerozol[m]
In any case, keep us updated on how the label goes :)
2024-12-20 35521, 2024
hypeventure[m]
aerozol[m]: Yea as a small label, that will do the thing
2024-12-20 35529, 2024
aerozol[m]
Yeah, I’d rather not lose sleep over repeat payments/have something taken down, but that’s just me. I have a friend atm who has an old music project she is considering if she should keep paying the annual fee for or not… it doesn’t recoup the costs, but it would be a shame to take it down. She could reupload it with another distributor but then she loses the album stats and tracks in playlists I think? In any case, that’s
2024-12-20 35529, 2024
aerozol[m]
made me glad I didn’t go for a recurring fee
2024-12-20 35535, 2024
hypeventure[m]
What's even concern is when transition to bigger label once it qualified for bigger giants such as ampsuite
2024-12-20 35543, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Aka moving catalog
2024-12-20 35515, 2024
hypeventure[m]
I mean, distributor
2024-12-20 35517, 2024
aerozol[m]
I don’t really get why you would move distributors once it’s up
2024-12-20 35548, 2024
hypeventure[m]
In case if I release a lot of singles and album
2024-12-20 35518, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Btw does cdbaby bundle with physical release in 10 bucks?
2024-12-20 35553, 2024
aerozol[m]
You can put as much up via CDBaby etc as you like. You’d have to really be sure there’s some value being added to move to something fancier
2024-12-20 35504, 2024
aerozol[m]
I think they used to do physical but not any more
2024-12-20 35545, 2024
crism
CDBaby used to do physical… there are a lot of URL edits in MBz about that. (The NGS meetings were held in the London flat of the CDBaby owner or founder or something, I forget which.)
2024-12-20 35545, 2024
hypeventure[m] uploaded an image: (220KiB) < https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/PeAbFDQHpBwoUfNuNWkIedAi/Screenshot_20241220-110031.png >
why doesn't MB record musical mode? that information would help DJs mix harmonically (coming from a Mixxx corner here, which has enums for such though they're not used)
<milkii> "why doesn't MB record musical..." <- THAT HAS TO BE A FEATURE
2024-12-20 35527, 2024
hypeventure[m]
The included meta such as BPM, and song key/Camelot, will helps a lot for djs
2024-12-20 35521, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Together with the integration to rekordbox, mixed in key and serato, will allow these software to skip a portion of analyzing process
2024-12-20 35542, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Since the key is already identified on the database itself
2024-12-20 35519, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Say that I had a track that already has a meta, I can ask the software to either based on file name to find the matching metadata and update it automatically, or let me choose one by myself
2024-12-20 35541, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Even better, another feature here: Search by multiple filters, including key, genre and BPM
2024-12-20 35505, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Then if the track has a Spotify link or any provider, we can preview using them to hear how they sound
2024-12-20 35534, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Then if I like it, I can save it to collection
2024-12-20 35549, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Then I can make list and bunch and so on using it
2024-12-20 35543, 2024
hypeventure[m]
I had a bunch on tracks in my library and it's been a hassle way to organize music for sets without help from rekordbox, and it's not even a free software
STYLE-758: New column for BPM (beats per minute) for recordings
2024-12-20 35500, 2024
lazybookwyrm[m]
\> Just going to fix this one release
2024-12-20 35500, 2024
lazybookwyrm[m]
\> 1 hour later of researching artist relationships started by looking at one artist
2024-12-20 35506, 2024
lazybookwyrm[m]
Bluegrass and southern gospel are both huge rabbit holes that I keep falling into lol
2024-12-20 35511, 2024
lazybookwyrm[m]
Do you guys think it's worth asking for an obituary url relationship type, or just file them under biography?
2024-12-20 35552, 2024
sentriz has quit
2024-12-20 35559, 2024
sentriz joined the channel
2024-12-20 35509, 2024
Island_ has quit
2024-12-20 35520, 2024
logistic-bot has quit
2024-12-20 35543, 2024
logistic-bot joined the channel
2024-12-20 35540, 2024
___nick___ has quit
2024-12-20 35541, 2024
__nick__ joined the channel
2024-12-20 35511, 2024
SigHunter has quit
2024-12-20 35515, 2024
logistic-bot has quit
2024-12-20 35512, 2024
logistic-bot joined the channel
2024-12-20 35533, 2024
SigHunter joined the channel
2024-12-20 35559, 2024
logistic-bot has quit
2024-12-20 35521, 2024
logistic-bot joined the channel
2024-12-20 35502, 2024
Sciencentistguy joined the channel
2024-12-20 35541, 2024
logistic-bot has quit
2024-12-20 35504, 2024
logistic-bot joined the channel
2024-12-20 35530, 2024
logistic-bot has quit
2024-12-20 35551, 2024
logistic-bot joined the channel
2024-12-20 35533, 2024
duncaen has quit
2024-12-20 35549, 2024
duncaen joined the channel
2024-12-20 35504, 2024
aerozol[m]
Seems like a pretty useful relationship type!
2024-12-20 35507, 2024
duncaen has quit
2024-12-20 35519, 2024
logistic-bot has quit
2024-12-20 35539, 2024
logistic-bot joined the channel
2024-12-20 35550, 2024
zoedivision[m]
todays edition of "why we need alternate tracklists":
2024-12-20 35550, 2024
zoedivision[m]
when the cassette release has four tracks; but the official digital download release is 'whole side = one track'
2024-12-20 35547, 2024
zoedivision[m]
this is 2024 we've had good modern codecs for eons, there's no reason I'm not splitting those side-length tracks 😂
2024-12-20 35522, 2024
aerozol[m]
I don’t know if alternate tracklists would solve that problem, I think it’s just for naming tracks? You probably need to tag against the cassette
2024-12-20 35503, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Sounds like my track will needs a vip mix or something
2024-12-20 35519, 2024
hypeventure[m]
s/Sounds/Maybe/, s/like//
2024-12-20 35532, 2024
hypeventure[m]
Just saying. Together was an old track that sounds worse
2024-12-20 35534, 2024
hypeventure[m]
:(
2024-12-20 35534, 2024
zoedivision[m]
the anal side of me (and who among us doesn't have one?) just sees it fundamentally flawed to tag a digital release as a cassette, or vinyl, or anything else that it isn't lol
2024-12-20 35520, 2024
zoedivision[m]
I guess as usual the inner logic of MB is too lofty for me to comprehend 🤷♀️