#musicbrainz

Just wanted to ask, whats the point of setting up my page on the site if nothing is ever going to show up in my media player? Am i doing something wrong or what?

Not one single song of mine gets autotagged. Im starting to get really irritated with it.

stvrchldofficial: I'm not a heavy user of musicbrainz, but I don't understand what you're talking about. Could you elaborate?

(basically, what page, and what media player, and what's meant to get autotagged?)

@virtualsid... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/...>)

That doesn't work for me. I'm on IRC.

Where do I find that

Well what do you mean exactly

this is what I see for your last message that I commented about: 11:40:27 <stvrchldofficial> @virtualsid... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/...>)

Im getting a 404 when trying to open that link

me too - but it's what comes across on the IRC side as something you sent.

I'll resend the message

@virtualsid... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/...>)

It's done the same again. Is it a huge wall of text perhaps?

Its a couple paragraphs

ill do it one at a time

I submitted about 120 edits, including the creation of my artist profile, my entire discography, images, everything. And after all the edits have been applied, and waiting 72 hours, not one piece of content is showing up.

The media player im trying to use this with is MediaMonkey. Literally everything else autotags correctly, except for my ow music. All im trying to do is have my Artwork, artist name, and titles fetched, and it wont even do that.

I tried to register on Matrix to access the direct chatroom, but registration is disabled

fwiw, I see your page fine on musicbrainz. I wonder if it's just not updated at mediamonkey? Maybe they use a cache of musicbrainz, and it's not updating for some reason?

I'll clear whatever cache the app has and ill pm the results

please don't pm - I'm not an expert here. I'm not sure it's a problem at the musicbrainz end, that's all.

I understand. I don't know whats going on either. I thought this was the place where maybe someone had run into this issue before.

Just reading up, I don't think it's been mentioned recently, sorry :(

stvrchldofficial: at a quick look, you have a bunch of single release groups, with one release each… but no tracks on the releases!

How do I do this correctly?

oops, good spot, crism

I thought I saw one track in each, but now I realise I wasn't going down enough

Depending on where your music is available, using a userscript to load your music (from Bandcamp, YouTube, or whatever) might be fastest.

Otherwise, edit a release, and under the Tracklist tab add one or more tracks. Give the track (recording) title, artist, and length there.

Also the format: are these CD singles or digital media releases?

I wouldnt know how to write a userscript for that purpose. And they are digital media releases. I have no physical distribution. Gotta love the modern day, amiright?

No need to write your own: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Guides/Userscripts

Will i have to erase duplicates after using the userscript?

And if going from youtube, do I do releases or recordings?

And how do I specify the target?

which script are you using, stvrchldofficial? I'm no expert, but I don't mind trying the workflow alongside you and seeing if together it makes more sense :)

I'm trying to look at the Youtube scripts for either releases or recordings

I just looked into trying to submit AcousID fingerprints, but its complicated and I still have 0 freaking clue how to make a fingerprint to begin with.

stvrchldofficial: Can you give us an example of one place your recordings can be found?

Youtube

Specifically, youtube music

Is this an example? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Lrnn9s1bM - I don't have youtube music.

stvrchldofficial: a *specific* link, please. I don’t know how to find you on YouTube.

The link you provided is one of my songs. Ill provide another

Hmm… well, the YouTube userscripts don’t seem to do anything for me. Welp.

So I would go to the release, edit it, and add the track to the tracklist with its length, and set the medium to digital release and the packaging to None. Add the YouTube link to the release as well.

Ive already followed those steps, but nothing will show up still. Pretty sure I need a fingerprint assosiated with the release, but i have absolutely no clue how to do that.

I don't recall adding fingerprints for the very few (3?) things I've added... ps. I used this https://github.com/RustyNova016/MusicBrainz-Use... and it gave me an 'add to musicbrainz' button below the main video window, and it pre-populated a whole bunch of fields seemingly correctly.

how am I meant to launch the JS file?

oh, from the link shared earlier, there's a bunch of userscript runners and userscripts: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Guides/Userscripts - I use violentmonkey

You don’t need a fingerprint to add a track.

I dont see any option to add the script to ViolentMonkey.

Blind looks good to me.

I had just updated Blind as a test to see if my metadata would be detected by MediaMonkey. It did not

How do I use the script? I have it showing up in the extension, but theres no button to speak of.

I don’t know anything about MediaMonkey. What metadata did you expect, and what did it give you?

Artist, Title, and Artwork. MediaMonkey pulls data from MediaBrainz directly as a built in feature.

The artist and title are entered correctly. How does MediaMonkey look them up?

Through its autotagging feature. It creates a fingerprint and looks up the information on Brainz.

Looks like MediaMonkey uses the FreeDB API, which is based on CD disc fingerprints. That is probably not very reliable for single tracks.

FreeDB is an alternate option for music lookup. MediaBrainz is the default

Id send a picture attachment, but i dont believe discord/IRC conversion would like that very much

https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/Using_MusicBra... says, “Mediamonkey can utilize the MusicBrainz FreeDB Gateway, as an alternative to the default freedb, to lookup cd metadata.”

I can’t find any other information on how MediaMonkey uses MusicBrainz.

Your music seems to be on Spotify as well. IMO it's much easier to use that with https://harmony.pulsewidth.org.uk/ to add your music to MusicBrainz in the future.

That page seems to advocate for using Picard for tagging against MusicBrainz, which I would recommend, too.

metadataismydrug: +1

I was unaware that this tool existed. Let me try it.

Im able to import, but metadata does not fetch in the media app, still

stvrchldofficial: I think you need help from the MediaMonkey community. The data looks OK in MusicBrainz to me.

Will do. Thank you for yalls help. It may not have been extraordinarily fruitful, but we got somewhere tonight.

I have yall sleep well, and have a great day tomorrow

@chase I assume it takes some time till whatever site/app updates their MB data.

stvrchldofficial (@_discord_1038164832022700252:chatbrainz.org) I'm looking at your edits, there's a lot of work needed - it might be best for visiblity for you to respond in-line to my comments I am putting forwad on MusicBrainz vs here

this is what you're aiming for imo for a good quality digital media submission

How do I delete a release group?

heh, this is fun:

sound.and.vision (@_discord_250311742364581888:chatbrainz.org) I viewed your comments that you posted. I'd like for everything to appear as Shadows does, but I'm having the issue I mentioned in the notes just now, in response to the edit you asked me to take care of.

Can you walk me through how to catalog these correctly? You mentioned that deleting entries can sometimes break stuff so I'd rather do this right, then mess up a bunch of things trying to restart.

For clarification, the temp release group was my attempt to merge my release groups in hopes of being able to mass delete everything, but I now see that it may have been the wrong move to make. It is my inexperience with the service at play.

stvrchldofficial: maybe take this edit note discussion to, the edit notes? you can reply to sound.and.vision in the edit notes, that makes it more likely that they will reply, (espsince they're soundandvision here)

Likely a good idea. I did respond to the notes, so I suppose I'll need to wait for additional comments to be added. Thanks!

question: Is there any script or something to simultaneously add tags to multople artists etc.? Or do I have to click on each artist (or release, etc.) and add each tag/genre?

stvrchldofficial (@_discord_1038164832022700252:chatbrainz.org) I'm out of the house at the moment, should be back in about an hour or so

To get started if you can set the tracklist and medium (digital media) on each release 😊

No problem at all.

Should I just add the releases through Harmony to do it automatically? If so, how do I deal with duplicate releases/release groups?

I'll have to leave for work shortly, so I'll have to wait until tonight to make all the necessary changes. Been fighting with Wikipedia and commons for a week now. Apparently all of the artist photos and cover arts I uploaded are considered as "unused selfies and personal art". Literally not, but okay.

ok I just realized that rap isnt a genre (huhh)

I had hip hop on my mind as rap, but rapping is a technique or activity

Yes that might be easier

Leave the existing entries in place and we'll merge them together afterwards 😊

@blastboom, rap is an acronym for rhythm and poetry, which is a subcategory of hip-hop. I feel like it should be a genre.

Will do. May I DM you after I am home so that way we can handle this without spamming the IRC chat?

Doing it over a voice chat may be the most helpful, but if you prefer not to go that route, I totally understand.

<stvrchldofficial> "@blastboom, rap is an acronym..." <- wow wasnt aware of that

Don't quote me, I'm not sure if it's actually a genre. But considering the amount of music people put into that category alone separate from hip-hop, I just feel it really should be a gente

I came to that conclusion because "rap" doesnt exist as a genre on musicbrainz

there are "X rap" genres, but not plain "rap"

* there are "X rap" genres (like emo rap) but not plain "rap"

* rap" genres (like emo rap), but

and wikipedia calls rapping is a technique or activity and for the genre it redirects you to hip hop

Quick beta update with a small fix before releasing the full server

Honestly, if Wikipedia says it technically isn't a genre, then they are probably right. They are so strict that I can't even create a page for my artist alias or upload photos for said page without getting nuked within 30 minutes. Everything I posted and worked on for the page was put up for deletion with no regard to what I was doing.

Wikipedia has notability requirements, if you don’t meet them then yeah, stuff will be removed

No such issue with MB ofc ☺️

stvrchldofficial (@_discord_1038164832022700252:chatbrainz.org) worth noting that there is no Official Genre Authority in the end

Genre is at least partially subjective

I can understand the wiki page, but they took my photos down because they considered them to be "unused selfies and personal art", which I don't believe is the case at all. These are personal at all, these are for my artist page. I don't understand how I'm supposed to add my biography and artist photos to musicbrainz if they just get nuked every time I try to post them from commons, which I was told was one of the only options