#musicbrainz

Absolutely crism

Just look at all new releases for ShibayanRecords or look at my most recent open edits.

dunno where this fits, but I've made a channel for watching the Eurovision finale, on the 17th, which is also my country's national day! (lmao, eurovision guys did NOT think that through)

and if people wanna come and hng out thne hit me up for an invite

I'll also post it in a non bridget discord channel, since it's a discord thing

Maybe they did think it through and they're going to make Norway win :p

So I'm ripping and tagging from CDs. I've used MusicBrainz and Picard to get a nicely tag set of flac files and now I also want to make mp3 copies but I'm having trouble finding a sane way to make mp3s with equivalent tags. The "flac2mp3" type scripts I've found vary in quality but none of them create an mp3 as fully tagged as if I had just tagged the mp3 from scratch in Picard. I'm reading through the Mutagen docs and trying to script up a

flac to mp3 tag transplant but it seems like surely there has to already be a mature tool for this. Suggestions?

UltraFuzzy (IRC): I'm not aware of one. Most conversion tools have a limited set of tags they fully support and understand how to transform between formats. Everything else they usually just create tags with same name. When I was still converting from FLAC to MP3 I just retagged the resulting files with Picard.

I have fully switched to using Ogg Opus by now, which eliminates the issue, as it is all Vorbis tags

hmmm... in that case, any good trick to fully automate Picard in a case like this where you already know exactly what you've got?

or did you go through the gui each time?

Went through the gui each time. I usually do this in one go for new releases I get: tag the flacs, convert to lossy and tag and store the results away. So I still have the release open in Picard anyway.

For my current conversion (to opus) I found actually a nice solution using the "Post Tagging Actions" plugin, which allows to run commands on the files. I have it call a script doing the conversion and then replacing the loaded file in Picard. Makes things pretty smooth for me.

The plugin is a bit rough, though. I hope we can integrate something like this directly into picard in the future :)

oh that's actually a good suggestion, I'll check that plugin out

UltraFuzzy (IRC): If you are interested, this is the script I run: https://paste.sr.ht/~phw/89aa18250841d2b1456d82... . It assumes it needs to convert all flacs in a folder. The magic is the call to 'picard -e REMOVE "$SOURCE_DIR/$f" -e LOAD "$DEST_FILE"', where it removes the old file from picard and loads the new one. But this only works that smoothly because the MBID tags are already properly set. That's one

of the parts the FLAC to MP3 conversion likely needs more work.

Thanks. I was having trouble getting the command line commands working (other than SHOW, which was just rubbing my failure in). Always handy to have a known working foothold.

Perhaps I'm misreading what you're looking for, but the foobar2000 player flawlessly and effortlessly copies tags over from source to converted files

volumetrique0[m]: I wonder if “label” was confusing for that user, and they are using it as “tag.”

Er, no, nvm—this is the artist they are misusing. Hm.

They are using Harmony for all their imports. I wonder if it is misleading them in some way.

It comes from the streaming services. But what I mean is that this is obviously NOT a release by ShibayanRecords. Someone's using this for monetary gain by adding it to streaming services.

zoe.division: it doesn't. given that foobar2000 to my knowledge does not support TIPL it does for example not transfer performer or arranger to ID3 properly. It also does not map several other tags like originaldate or the MB identifiers.

TIPL?

I just converted the MB-tagged FLAC I'm listening to to an ID3v2 MP3 and all the data is still present.

Just forget I said anything 🙂

It doesn't help just copying all the data so it technically is somewhat there. As different formats have different tags to represent certain information it needs to be converted properly.

So e.g. if you have a PERFORMER tag in your Vorbis tags this should be transferred to a TMCL frame in ID3 v2.4. But most converters just copy the majority of tags as free text tags to ID3, e.g. they would create a TXXX:PERFORMER tag

UltraFuzzy (IRC) I use fre:ac https://www.freac.org/

for flac -> mp3 and keeping tags?

fre:ac usually keeps most of the tags, if I recall correctly it also keeps MBID too but it sometimes can mess up itunes compilation flag. So it's always a good measure to re-run converted files from picard again

Anyone happen to know why Picard encodes the TRCK and TPOS id3 tags as Latin1 instead of utf-8 like everything else? 🤔