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      • lemuria
        Does "they uploaded a video of themselves singing an original song to YouTube", without any formal release, count?
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      • leftmostcat[m]
        I think "uploaded to YouTube" counts as a release, I'd say.
      • lemuria
        And at the same time, I'm doubting whether every single small YouTuber should have a recording every time they cover a certain work...
      • Because that would quickly bloat things up to hundreds of covers, hell maybe even thousands
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      • crism
        lemuria: We don’t have any notability criteria, but to me, the question is always, “Who cares?” Will someone want to see a complete list of recordings by this artist? Or a complete list of recordings of a particular work? Will someone want to tag a ripped version of it? So no, not every single person singing any song in any YouTube video, but any video you (or anyone else) thinks is worth doing the work to put into MBz, sure!
      • leftmostcat[m]
        I go by that criterion generally as well. Do I count this event I attended where music was played as an Event? I dunno, do I care enough about it to put it in my Attended collection?
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      • jojothespacepean
        Is MusicBrainz blocking users with VPNs now? Can't access the website today when using NordVPN. Switching servers doesn't help.
      • Well the answer seems to be yes, but the question is if it's intentional or if something is screwed up right now that will be fixed.
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      • aerozol[m]1
        Probably recently got blocked along with a few hundred thousand IPAI crawler IP’s. You can request
      • jojothespacepean
        How? Where? I can't provide a specific IP, it's blocking every NordVPN server I try. All of them worked yesterday.
      • aerozol[m]1
        * Probably recently got blocked along with a few hundred thousand IP’s used by AI crawlers etc. You can request to be unblocked by emailing here: https://metabrainz.org/contact
      • Sorry, I accidently hit enter. I’ve edited my message
      • jojothespacepean
        I have another connection I can use, but there should probably be another way, since that page isn't accessible to those who are blocked.
      • aerozol[m]1
        Ah sorry, it’s just support@metabrainz.org, the email is on that page
      • You can also try to catch a server admin here, but the email is better, since everyone sees that/doesn’t depend on you both being on chat at once
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      • jojothespacepean
        Alright, thanks. I sent them an e-mail. Now I wait.
      • I was thinking perhaps it was a temporary VPN block due to DDOS or something because I was noticing last night the website was struggling and timing out, then today I couldn't access it via VPN.
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      • aerozol[m]1
        Hmm maybe, one of the server admins will be able to have a look. The reason I mentioned the AI crawlers is we just recently got hit with a wave (probably the slowdown you noticed), and I assume a lot of IPs got blocked as a result. But I’m just guessing :)
      • jojothespacepean
        Ah. I didn't see any announcements so I just came here.
      • Time to get dinner and hopefully it'll be back online after.
      • zas[m]
        <aerozol[m]1> "Hmm maybe, one of the server..." <- Exactly
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        I'm back, baby!
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      • riedler[m]
        question - in "external links", what link type would a fiverr page be?
      • - patronage is arguably not right because it's not donations
      • - ticketing also because it's not tickets per se
      • - social networking? I mean, not really
      • leftmostcat[m]
        Not quite sure how to split https://musicbrainz.org/release/300d790f-99f6-4.... It's listed as a US release, but there's no evidence there was ever a US release with that cat no. Worse, the cover art is indeed for a known US release with a different cat no.
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      • riedler[m]
        riedler[m]: > <@riedler:masfloss.net> - patronage is arguably not right because it's not donations... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/...>)
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      • azosbear[m]
        Speaking of YouTube recordings (like music videos and covers) what if the title credits as artist & co.
      • I'm wondering how those should be handled
      • lemuria
        is there a sort of template or statement that can be used to explain what musicbrainz is when i tell artists that i added them to musicbrainz?
      • this is sorta what i've written:
      • "MusicBrainz is not a streaming service, but a music database that stores metadata about the songs like release dates, artists, and links to streaming services. It's open for anyone to add data, so I've been doing that. A lot of Twitch musicians and their originals are still not in it and I've been spending a few hours each day adding new artists as I explore the site."
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