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      • leftmostcat[m]
        Long time since I made an edit this controversial. šŸ˜†
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      • Aerozol[m]
        Good times šŸ˜›
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      • zoedivision[m]
        Ooh, I just discovered the "sampled IMDb entry" relationship, very cool
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      • zoedivision[m]
        So, yesterday at home in the morning, I spent an hour or two entering works and recordings relationships for a release, then reached a stopping point where I was unsure how to proceed, and left it where I was, and went about the rest of my day.
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      • zoedivision[m]
        This morning I turned on my monitor to find that my PC performed an update and rebooted, losing all my work. 🄲 🄲
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      • BlastboomStrice[
        Ooof
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      • zoedivision[m]
        Luckily it wasn't overly complicated. I'll be back to where I was by memory in no time 😁
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      • zoedivision[m]
        reposting from yesterday : Is the "Live" recording attribute still applicable for "live-in-studio" recordings? (not just public concerts, etc)
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      • elomatreb[m]
        I don't think there is a clear consensus
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      • elomatreb[m]
        I think I would lean towards only using it for performances in front of an actual live audience
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      • zoedivision[m]
        I see, I see. Yeah, I think I lean that way as well for general usage
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      • zoedivision[m]
        but there's also a fair amount of cases out there where artists do explicitly describe the recordings as live-in-studio, and I can't really decide whether that muddies the waters too much or not šŸ¤”
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      • zoedivision[m]
        It makes more sense if it's in contrast to another recording with more overdubs or 'production', but if it ends up being the *only* recording, I'm not so sure
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      • kepstin
        "live in studio" is more or less a production technique, right? perform the entire song together as a band in a single take, rather than recording individual parts or mixing multiple takes
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      • leftmostcat[m]
        Sounds like a good case for a separate attribute.
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      • zoedivision[m]
        yeah, I def agree!
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      • zoedivision[m]
        @kepstin ye I presume that's the general idea
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      • aerozol[m]1
        zoe.division: I thought I remember this having come up before (what to mark as live), but couldn’t find it. Turns out there’s a note in the ā€˜podcast and broadcast programs’ guidelines: If the show is a recording of a live performance add ā€œLiveā€. Studio recordings that were recorded over multiple takes and then edited together are not considered live, even if a ā€˜studio audience’ was present (for instance, to record
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      • aerozol[m]1
        Doesn’t answer your question, but related. imo ā€œlive in studioā€ is not live, unless there was an audience present
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      • zoedivision[m]
        At first glance that basically seems like it's answering the inverse question
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      • zoedivision[m]
        Like in TV, "Filmed in front of a live studio audience" versus Saturday Night Live, for example
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      • zoedivision[m]
        In that guideline, it sounds like the distinguishing factor is multiple takes, overdubs, and the like, and not the presence of an audience
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      • leftmostcat[m]
        That guideline is specifically for podcast and broadcast programs, not for album releases.
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      • zoedivision[m]
        Yes, of course, but it seems to be the only detailed precedent we have at the moment.
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      • leftmostcat[m]
        I'm not sure which is being referred to in this case, but it's an important distinction to make.
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      • aerozol[m]1
        The distinguishing factor is the presence of the audience. Then a secondary factor is if it’s actually a fully live recording, or was just filmed in front of a studio audience and then cut up
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      • aerozol[m]1
        (for that podcast/broadcast guideline)
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