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      • crism
        juniorjpdj, not clear what the problem is. Was https://musicbrainz.org/release/ab85cb55-2e97-4bc… ever released on its own?
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      • juniorjpdj
        crism: it wasnt
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      • juniorjpdj
        my problem is I can't use UI to do what I want
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      • crism
        No, there’s not a good way to merge media once they’ve been entered.
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      • juniorjpdj
        what to do then?
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      • crism
        You could merge the standalone into the new release, then edit the resulting (incorrect) release… or you could manually merge the recordings and other stuff. There’s not a good answer I’m aware of.
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      • crism
        If you just created the big release, you could delete that, and do it again, using the standalone EP as a starting point.
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      • Cheezmo100
        Wow y'all have totally lost me with this server change, I can't interpret crap like "Cheezmo has changed mode: +Ri
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      • Cheezmo100
        Reply(742): #musicbrainz s imnpstcClkfj MODE cannot be set as the channel has an active MLOCK restriction (see /msg chanserv help set MLOCK)"
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      • Cheezmo100
        Trying to set up LimeChat to access things
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      • Cheezmo
        OK, maybe working now?
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      • Ceta
        Please excuse the terrible markup in the image that I am about to post.
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      • Ceta
        In relation to this edit (https://musicbrainz.org/edit/79987824) I was wondering if someone could tell me whether these recordings appear to be the same, as far as a recording entry in musicbrainz cares. Obviously there is a minor offset in the track start and end times in the actual files, and the loudness(?) differs, but besides that is there any reason these would not be the same
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      • Ceta
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      • Ceta
        I can provide different views of the audio data if someone knows a better visualization for determining these kinds of things
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      • Ceta
        Both produce the same AcoustID fdd427b8-8a5f-4377-88e9-4bcb6a11a2a0
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      • elomatreb[m]
        That does look very similar, and the fact that they're from different versions of the same release also supports being the same
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      • elomatreb[m]
        If there is no audible difference I'd say you would consider them the same
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      • juniorjpdj
        elomatreb[m]: there's matrix bridge for libera?
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      • elomatreb[m]
        yeah, since a few days
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      • minimiggs
        I am trying to run Musicbrainz locally to create my own personal database from scratch. Is it easier to use ubuntu or osx? I have next to no coding ability.
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      • yvanzo
        Hi minimiggs, do you mean MusicBrainz Picard?
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      • yvanzo
        Or MusicBrainz Server?
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      • minimiggs
        musicbrainz server. I have managed to get a MusicBrainz mirror server running. next step is the ability to create my own database from scratch
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      • yvanzo
        minimiggs: I would recommend you not to install it if you have neither coding nor sysadmin ability.
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      • yvanzo
        This is not made to create custom databases.
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      • yvanzo
        It is designed to create a unique database and mirror it.
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      • yvanzo
        minimiggs: Maybe beets.io would be a better fit?
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      • minimiggs
        OK. I understand. I just love the premise of the Musicbrainz system.
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      • yvanzo
        minimiggs: There seems to be a misconception about either how MB works or how to reach your end goal.
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      • minimiggs
        I have already added all of my aprox. 2000 CDs to the Musicbrainz database.
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      • yvanzo
        So you should be able to retrieve them in a local database using beets.
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      • CatQuest
        why need a local database to retrive them tho
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      • minimiggs
        Maybe I am looking at this the wrong way.
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      • minimiggs
        One of the issues I have with the main database is. Looking at a single track on a CD that I own. It will have multiple ISRC codes, multiple Audio fingerprints. How do I know which Audio fingerprint is my track?
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      • minimiggs
        Adding to that. When each track in the database has multiple audio fingerprints and multiple ISRCs, How do I compare multiple tracks to see if they are the same or different?
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      • atj
        minimiggs: I'm not sure I understand the question to be honest, but to find the track you have, you calculate the acoustID fingerprint and then check to see which one matches?
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      • atj
        also, tracks can have multiple ISRCs, I'm not sure it's something to get hung up about
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      • Freso
        Cheezm___: That message is from oldnet, not Libera, and just means you can’t join #musicbrainz there (it will forward you to #metabrainz though). If you get that same message here, please do let me know.
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      • Cheezm___
        All seems to have worked out after restarting the client. Thanks!
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      • Cheezm___
        Except getting my name right again, :-)
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      • yvanzo
        minimiggs: The acoustID fingerprint can be computed locally from your audio file using Chromaprint (which is used by Picard).
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      • yvanzo
        A MB recording can have multiple AcoustID fingerprints, but the opposite implies there is a mistake in the database.
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      • Freso
        Not necessarily. E.g., it’s known that karaoke versions not uncommonly get the same AcoustID as studio versions.
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      • yvanzo
        Right, it can also be the case for video versions IIRC.
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      • yvanzo
        In both cases, that would be specified for these recordings.
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      • yvanzo
        These two only exceptions should be marked with relationships: https://musicbrainz.org/relationships/recording-r…
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      • Freso
        I’m sure there are other exceptions, too. :)
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      • yvanzo
        They should be documented too then.
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