#musicbrainz

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      • CatQuest
        (wich is really really huge bits)
      • 2021-09-25 26857, 2021

      • dominikh
        I know webdev is hell, but this is beyond scary
      • 2021-09-25 26839, 2021

      • CatQuest
        aw come on, devs are working hard on everything and doing react
      • 2021-09-25 26856, 2021

      • CatQuest
        not entierly sure how many working on it it is
      • 2021-09-25 26801, 2021

      • dominikh
        oh I'm not blaming the devs, I'm blaming React :P
      • 2021-09-25 26810, 2021

      • CatQuest
        it's bitmap and reo, i tihkn maybe also yvanzo?
      • 2021-09-25 26830, 2021

      • CatQuest
        oh i see :D
      • 2021-09-25 26850, 2021

      • dominikh
        thanks for the update though! I'll stay excited :)
      • 2021-09-25 26808, 2021

      • Erin
        i wouldnt say webdev is hell
      • 2021-09-25 26811, 2021

      • Erin
        its fine
      • 2021-09-25 26818, 2021

      • Erin
        its just .... there's probably a trillion little details
      • 2021-09-25 26823, 2021

      • Erin
        cause thats how that always goes
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      • derwin
        11:03 < dominikh> you might as well overlay two FFTs and look for visual differences :P
      • 2021-09-25 26800, 2021

      • derwin
        if they're the same duration, you can use ffmpeg to subtract one of them from the other and listen to the difference, heh
      • 2021-09-25 26811, 2021

      • derwin
        (or visualize it)
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      • derwin
        oh, I see, in scrollback, Erin mentioned a technique to do that in Audacity
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      • Lotheric
        ROpdebee, it works with violent monkey, same script version, same os/browser/other extensions
      • 2021-09-25 26851, 2021

      • Lotheric
        I tried with tampermonkey as the only extension in private tab, doesn't work
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      • Lotheric
        I tried disabling all my scripts in TM except yours, doesn't work
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      • Lotheric
        I'm stumped
      • 2021-09-25 26825, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        hey all, what should I do when I make an edit that I believe is correct and someone blocks it because they also believe theirs is correct?
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      • King_DuckZ
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      • Erin
        probably find out
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      • Erin
        https://ototoy.jp/_/default/p/927688 finding other sources might help
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      • King_DuckZ
        I searched on ddg for guidelines about that, the link I already posted is all I could find
      • 2021-09-25 26813, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        thanks, I'll post the link
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      • Erin
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      • King_DuckZ
        it's not fair tho that they could do their edit without me getting a chance to vote, and now I have to prove that my first version was correct
      • 2021-09-25 26819, 2021

      • dominikh
        I'm inclined to side with accurate lengths over poorly rounded and cargo-culted ones
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      • Erin
        wait
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      • Erin
        if you go to his original edit
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      • Erin
        he links apple, deezer, and spotify
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      • Erin
        they all show 16, 23, 22, 14
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      • Erin
        which he is getting rid of
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      • derwin
        Erin: as a brief piece of chat meta, my personal opinion is that your line lengths could be a little bit longer, to avoid scrolling chat as much. especially with single word lines like "wait" :)
      • 2021-09-25 26832, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        lol
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      • derwin
        King_DuckZ: ;P
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      • Erin
        looking at the other link he has that includes the decimals
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      • Erin
        ..... i just cant find anything in this to support his conclusions
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      • Erin
        he's basically saying he would like to apply his own rounding preferences instead of the one literally /everyone/ uses
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      • King_DuckZ
        I tried to keep discussions grouped, but there are a few that overlap https://musicbrainz.org/release/416ade1e-7319-470…
      • 2021-09-25 26851, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        well I'd appreciate if you guys could jump in and vote, at least to break the tie otherwise it's my opinion vs his
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      • dominikh
        yeah I don't get it. Track 1 in iTunes is 256050 ms. how does that round to 4:17?
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      • Erin
        technically, 00-49 round down, and 50-99 round up
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      • Erin
        but thats only rounding, not just some kind of "all things must follow this rule"
      • 2021-09-25 26817, 2021

      • dominikh
        even so, 256050 ms is 4 minutes and 16.05s. that doesn't round to 4:17 :P
      • 2021-09-25 26832, 2021

      • Erin
        realistically, there's nothing out there that says mathematical rounding is preferable over truncation, or something like that, or that we somehow prefer to disagree with published versions
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      • Erin
        so what this other guy is doing essentially is just saying his preference for how the fraction is resolved is greater thant he value of matching publication, which is .... false
      • 2021-09-25 26847, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        he's voting against my other edits too https://musicbrainz.org/edit/83042086
      • 2021-09-25 26858, 2021

      • Erin
        well thats just not cool
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      • King_DuckZ
        is it true what he's saying? if so, what's the point of many releases having the 96 kHz thing in the disambiguation then?
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      • Erin
        although i would have to read that
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      • Erin
        dominikh : i think you voted no on correcting this by mistake maybe?
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      • Erin
        cause your comment indicates that you would agree with it
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      • Erin
        anyway my comment is in and i have to eat
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      • Erin
        good luck
      • 2021-09-25 26801, 2021

      • Erin
        i'll read the other when i return
      • 2021-09-25 26810, 2021

      • dominikh
        Erin: I actually side with accurate rounding; though I do wish the comment and vote were indicated separately, as they were made separately
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      • Roey
        Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look?
      • 2021-09-25 26814, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        Erin: discussion sort of started here https://musicbrainz.org/edit/83000533 for context
      • 2021-09-25 26820, 2021

      • dominikh
        IIRC both musicbrainz importing from existing data, and Picard, round instead of truncate
      • 2021-09-25 26846, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        well if he's right then he's right, just in all releases I made based on mora.jp I copy-pasted the info from there, and I'm not going to check the millisecond duration and doing rounding by hand on each track (I don't even have the files, sometimes). I think it's best to keep the published length, picard is able to tell that 1 second difference doesn't matter anyways
      • 2021-09-25 26804, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        but if you all agree then I'm fine with dropping this edit
      • 2021-09-25 26836, 2021

      • dominikh
        well apparently we're not all agreeing :P
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      • dominikh
        does Picard ignore a 1s difference, or does it round?
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      • King_DuckZ
        that I noticed, every time length is off by 1 it's not marked in orange
      • 2021-09-25 26814, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        that's all I can say
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      • King_DuckZ
        ...and he voted against this too https://musicbrainz.org/edit/83042224 /facepalm
      • 2021-09-25 26825, 2021

      • King_DuckZ
        is it true that there is no distinction between hi-res and "regular" releases?