I would say that it is a bootleg, likely the sample was not licensed so the release couldn't be made officially
CatQuest
ah sorry not right now, I'm prepairing to go out and deal with some bankstuff later. i can't get into some mb wormhole :d
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crism
IMO a bootleg is not authorized by the recording artist—the primary one.
The recording can be official and have unlicensed or unauthorized samples; that just sets the official issuer up for a lawsuit. A bootleg release of unlicensed samples would (IANAL) actually protect the artist, I would think, since they aren’t responsible for distributing the samples without permission.
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notsosmart
according to MB style, bootleg is "An unofficial/underground release that was not sanctioned by the artist and/or the record company. This includes unofficial live recordings and pirated releases." https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Release
crism
notsosmart: if I make a recording that samples The Beatles, without permission from the rights holder, and I release it officially on my Bandcamp page, I maintain that that is an official release from me, despite the unlicensed samples. I may get sued, but the lack of rights to *their* music doesn’t make *my* music release a bootleg.
jesus2099 and all: indexed search is fully operational again.
notsosmart
crism: so I guess appearances matter
"Music & Sex" has all the appearances of a bootleg release...
yvanzo: what about cover art? Picard is not able to fetch it :(
or maybe there is a way to fix it manually? I was told that the cover art is correctly uploaded to CAA, but the link is broken... what is the correct link?
elomatreb[m]
<notsosmart> "tI think this release (https://..." <- Note that the legal situation around sampling is very complicated, eg it's legal in German copyright if the sampled sounds can't reasonably be reproduced
Legal even without permission, that is
yvanzo
notsosmart: This is a networking issue as we moved a CAA redirect instance back to our main servers.
notsosmart
yes, but whomever released this record, didn't think it was worth the risk to release it, plus obviously there is certain "coolness" to releasing a bootleg-like record, but this is yet another reason to treat this release as a bootleg -- the artist intended it to be a bootleg, so why took it away from them :)