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jybz
aerozol: added
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jybz
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jybz
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aerozol
Amazing! nice job
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jybz
on something I added; a copy paste from discogs, but the title on discogs is truncated.
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jybz
What can I do to apply the correction ?
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jybz
Waiting 7 days ?
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aerozol
You have a grace period of I think a day if you just added it - otherwise you can ask here for votes/auto-editors to approve some edits immediately
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jybz
I open it and edit it within 5 minutes, but need approval. Anyway, good night !
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aerozol
You can link me and I'll approve it :)
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aerozol
Night!
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jybz
(how to "link you" on an edit ?)
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aerozol
Ah, I found it in your open edits I think, is it this one? 'Grand Canyon Ouverture'
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jybz
Yes; this one
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aerozol
You can click the title of any edit and then you will be on the page for that edit, and can share the URL
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aerozol
Approved - this edit changed the recording but not the tracklist btw. Confusing I know :D
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jybz
ah ! I thought I should link on a hypertext "link to someone" or adding a comment like "@aerozol" :D I'm definitly tired
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aerozol
ooh no nothing fancy :P
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jybz
Oh... Should I also edit the track list ?!
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aerozol
If you want to! Usually you can edit track list and then tick 'update recordings' in the next tab to make it quicker
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aerozol
You have this in hand and it's written 'Ouverture' on the back?
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jybz
No; I don't have it in hand... Let check 5 minutes on net.
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jybz
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jybz
this is NOT the same support, that is for tape, and not for CD
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aerozol
Yes, I found that too haha. But if that's like that and Discogs has it wrong I imagine it could have CD wrong too
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aerozol
You should sleep! Only lunchtime here
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jybz
Already... Time is running ! Good night
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aerozol
Night!!
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CatQuest
.. honestly it seems like younger people don't understand how urls works. they except some sharing link or whatever? :/
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jybz
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jybz
The second link precise : also known as "The Dutch Album."
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derwin
hi
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jybz
but the covers are slightly different
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derwin
in general the easiest way to add any release is to find it on a site and use an importer
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derwin
and if there's multiple different versions of a release, that's what "release groups" are for
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derwin
they contain all the different versions or alternatives as you say
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derwin
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derwin
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derwin
so... use the discogs importer?
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jybz
Perfect. How to use the importer ? From musicbrainz website or from picard ?
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derwin
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derwin
be sure to hit "guess case" so that you don't get discogs-style capitalization
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derwin
and feel free to paste the resulting release and I can give feedback on how you did :)
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jybz
hum... I'm blocked with "label : RCA Cat No: [...]" already exists
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derwin
paste the existing mb release?
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derwin
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derwin
that has barcode / catnum 74321 489202
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derwin
yours is 74321 488062 no?
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jybz
from discogs, "The Dutch Album" is 74321 488062 and mine, "The Album" is 743214892022
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jybz
but maybe discogs is wrong and permutes them...
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CatQuest
not probable
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derwin
if yours is 74321 489202 how is it different from what is in mb?
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derwin
oh, I see, the mb has the *name* of the one with the catalog of the other
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jybz
the Dutch Album on MB is 743214892022
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jybz
the Dutch Album on Discogs is 74321488062
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CatQuest
maybe just typo on whoever entered it in mb
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CatQuest
or maybe identical albums but called slightly diff in diff areas?
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derwin
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derwin
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CatQuest
yea
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derwin
in general, releases imported from freedb in 2006 are low quality and might have an error like wrong cat number vs. title
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derwin
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derwin
so... catalog number was added by a person who was also a beginner
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derwin
and probably didn't realize the distinction between the two names
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derwin
I would probably just change the release name here, because the catalog number and country and label are all correct..
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derwin
(and, if I cared to, import the other one and add it to the same release group)
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CatQuest
I agree
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CatQuest
well *technically* a new should be added and all the relevant data moved.. but
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CatQuest
are thre ddiscids tho?
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CatQuest
eh
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CatQuest
there discids
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derwin
oof :/
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CatQuest
no disc id so i say go for it, just rename the release
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CatQuest
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derwin
oh, I thought you were saying there were discids
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derwin
but I didn't see the edits adding them hehe
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CatQuest
yea i was cheking
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derwin
jybz: you following all this?
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jybz
oups... Sorry
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jybz
didn't follow...
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jybz
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CatQuest
no worries
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jybz
I will cancel it
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derwin
hrm.. I mean, that is valid too, actually they're the same labels and stuff
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CatQuest
yes
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CatQuest
i was gonna say" or do what you're doing" but eehhh
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CatQuest
i'm not really ven into this, so i'll but out.. too many cooks" and such
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derwin
I don't have a strong opinion as to whether the title or the catalog number should be changed, because each is the only thing that differs
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jybz
Ehm... I already cancel...
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derwin
I am "just" another user and not offering any official opinion, but IMO doing either is valid and ok
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derwin
the one thing that is for sure wrong is having that title with the current catalog number :)
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CatQuest
same as derwin (thos i have a few more years on my belt, i can als obe wrong for usre :))
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derwin
CatQuest: I haven't approved an edit before, but this one seems fine to do that with, given that jybz is tagging rn?
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CatQuest
wich one, link?
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CatQuest
changing name/barcode?
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derwin
(the hypothetical one I presume that jybz will paste in a moment)
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CatQuest
sure. i say go for it. just say we discussed it in irc (and if yo ucna be bothered a link to said discussion)
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derwin
kk
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jybz
Hummm... Actually, it looks like it was automatically applied; except the bar code..
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jybz
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derwin
would have been good to specify the reason you're changing the barcode ("wrong title for this barcode, I chose to change the barcode")
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derwin
in the edit note
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derwin
ok, approved.
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jybz
Ok, thank you derwin
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jybz
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jybz
On the cover we read :
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jybz
always elvis the album
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jybz
But the page :
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jybz
always elvis
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jybz
Should the title be the first or the second ?
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derwin
look at the disc
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jybz
Ok; disc is clear.
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jybz
Should I clic on "copy the release title to the release group" ?
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derwin
I'm not sure of any actual policy here, but I would use the subset as the Release group title
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derwin
so like one is :
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derwin
"Always Elvis" and the other is "Always Elvis (The Dutch Album)" so I would call the release group "Always Elvis"
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jybz
me too. So I select to copy.
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derwin
2/3 versions are called "Always Elvis"
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derwin
so yeah, copy.
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derwin
(and in the edit note explain the above reasoning)
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jybz
Oh noo... Again, it tells me that the label RCA:74321489202 already exists...
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derwin
does it give you a link to the release with that catalog number?
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derwin
(or might you be editing a cached copy with the old catalog number?)
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jybz
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derwin
you haven't selected the label yet
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derwin
so that error is saying "blank label" and <same catalog number> is a dupe
