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      • k-man
        is there some way to install a recent version of musicbrainz on debian, without flatpak? (for some reason flatpak is taking hours to install it)
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      • BobSwift[m]
        k-man (IRC): Have you tried the package from https://packages.debian.org/testing/sound/picard
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      • k-man
        i didn't because i'm on stable. i ended up getting an appimage that seemed to work
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      • k-man
        BobSwift[m]: thanks for the pointer though
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      • BobSwift[m]
        Yeah, I see the Debian stable is quite a few releases behind. Another option might be snap, but that comes with its own issues (snap).
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      • BobSwift[m]
        You could also run from source. I do that all the time when I'm working on the code. See https://github.com/metabrainz/picard/releases/tag… and https://github.com/metabrainz/picard/blob/2.x/INS… for more information.
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      • outsidecontext[m
        k-man (IRC): the deb package for Ubuntu from https://launchpad.net/~musicbrainz-developers/+ar… also should have a good chance to run. Ideally choose the one from the Ubuntu version closest to current Debian stable. Not sure which one this is, but you can look this up. Or just try the latest and see if it works.
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      • BenMcLean
        I'm trying to modify my Picard naming script to replace every instance of an en dash "–" with a hyphen "-" on the output of the entire script. But when I try to do this the obvious/intuitive way, I get "Unexpected character" Can anyone please help? https://gist.github.com/BenMcLean/9eebf3b0489cbe1…
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      • BenMcLean
        I would expect to just wrap everything in a $replace(everything,–,-) but that doesn't work.
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      • BenMcLean
        I mean that doesn't even compile
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      • outsidecontext[m
        BenMcLean: It is because of "($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%))", the outer parantheses there must be escaped "\($if2(%albumartist%,%artist%)\)"
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      • BenMcLean
        Thanks!
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      • BenMcLean
        That makes sense now
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      • outsidecontext[m
        You're welcome. Ideally literal parantheses are always escaped as ( and ). But as long as it is used on the top level outside of any function the parser accepts them also unescaped.
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      • BenMcLean
        Picard's naming script language is really nice
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      • outsidecontext[m
        It tends to become a bit hard to read because of the space sensitivity. Handling this properly (like you did in your script with the line breaks) needs some experience. But yes, the scripting makes things really flexible :)
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      • BenMcLean
        The syntax highlighting in the app seems to be a little messed up though. commas aren't one consistent color
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      • outsidecontext[m
        They should be. If you have some example scripts of the highlighting getting it wrong please feel free to report this as a bug.
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      • BenMcLean
        here's a thought: when tagging/renaming audiobooks, I'd prefer my folder name to reflect the original publication date of the actual book, not of the audiobook. But to my knowledge, MusicBrainz doesn't have a way to do that, does it?
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      • outsidecontext[m
        No, I don't think there is currently data for this
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      • BenMcLean
        outsidecontext, my same script above shows some commas white and some commas pink in the app. (dark mode)
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      • BenMcLean
        outsidecontext, should I propose that data be added? maybe as a connection with bookbrainz somehow?
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      • outsidecontext[m
        oh, you wrote "commas", I read "comments". Yes, that should probably be fixed
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      • outsidecontext[m
        BenMcLean: I think it is already possible to link to BB. So that would be a solution. There could be a BookBrainz plugin fetching extra information from there for audiobooks.
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      • outsidecontext[m
        Not sure about the status of the BB API, though. kellnerd or monkey, can you say?
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      • kellnerd[m]
        It is finished but not deployed in production was the last status I've heard of the BB API.
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      • kellnerd[m]
        https://api.test.bookbrainz.org/ where it is supposed to be available for testing is 502ing
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      • outsidecontext[m
        Ok. But this already being finished in principle gives at least some perspective
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      • BenMcLean
        outsidecontext, does Picard naming script even have comments?
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      • outsidecontext[m
        Not really or kind of, however you see it. The $noop function does nothing and is commonly used to add comments or disable parts of the script. Syntax highlighting renders all content inside $noop() in grey
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      • BenMcLean
        So that's what $noop is for. I didn't think of using it for comments :)
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      • BenMcLean
        Thanks for the help. Bye! :)
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      • monkey[m]
        kellnerd, outsidecontext thanks for pointing that out, I kicked the container and it's back up: https://api.test.bookbrainz.org/1/docs/
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      • monkey[m]
        Indeed pretty much finished but not officially deployed
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      • yvanzo[m]
        aerozol, reosarevok: For describing _Ticket_: “Usually a bit of paper, or digital or other material. Often used for admission. Ticket stub and pass fall under the same type.”
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      • yvanzo[m]
        That’s the same idea of actually describing what a ticket usually is, not limited to though.
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      • yvanzo[m]
        For Flyer, it is probably not needed to start with “A flyer is”, the rest of the description is great otherwise.
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      • yvanzo[m]
        The main points were for Poster and Ticket.
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      • yvanzo[m]
        To others, I was continuing a discussion about the descriptions of event art types that have just been copied to https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Event_Art/Types
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      • yvanzo[m]
        Those will soon be available for translation.
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      • discordbrainz
        <05RandomMushroom128> There was a bit of confusion about the style guidelines in discord, does a various artist release, in which all recordings are originally released on there, get the compilation secondary type? For example, "Various Artists - Top 80's Hits" would be a compilation because it consists of previously released music, but "Various Artists - Prey of Dreams" not because all music was made specifically for that release?
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      • discordbrainz
        https://musicbrainz.org/release/3a4ba16d-65f1-4c4… (currently a compilation, because I thought that's right when entering it) https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Release_Group/Type#Co…
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      • discordbrainz
        <02UltimateRiff> I think the answer has been yes in the past, but I don't know if I've seen any recommendations either way on that... I've only seen this by example from other editors, such as on Ponies At Dawn https://musicbrainz.org/series/f0a1fc1c-c09c-4274…
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      • discordbrainz
        <03nik> Is there a shorter way to get a recording's release groups than joining recording -> track -> medium -> release -> release group? The database I'm using has join limits, so I'm trying to cut out some of the middle bits. I saw the l_recording_release_group table, but it looks like it's empty.
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      • kepstin
        I'd argue that no, it should not be a compilation unless it's compiling previously released material.
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      • discordbrainz
        <10volumetrique> My personal opinion is that it shouldn't. Compilations secondary tag is for "compiling" existing tracks together. That's also what the guidelines seems to nudge towards
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      • kepstin
        I think the wording in the guidelines could stand some clarification. They give some examples of various artists "theme" compilations, but it's not clear that the reason that they're a compilation is that they compiled a bunch of previously released music which fit the theme.
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      • discordbrainz
        <10volumetrique> exactly.
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      • eharris
        I asked this before, and someone answered, but I don't remember who. Is there a way to report/fix releases that have a missing/failed json file from CAA that prevents cover art from loading.
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      • eharris
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      • eharris
        Which produces this error in picard: CAA JSON error: Error transferring https://ia800609.us.archive.org/26/items/mbid-2d7… - server replied: Not Found
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      • mr44er[m]
        eharris (IRC): that was me. my solution was to download the original sized file file and reupload it, but I don't know if there are better options. if yes, I'm all ears. for now, we'll see in some minutes if it works https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/113093443
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      • mr44er[m]
        btw. https://www.discogs.com/de/release/8369236-UNKLE-… shows no cover...boobs are good ❤️
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      • eharris
        mr44er[m]: hmm, it is working now. Did you do something to fix it?
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      • mr44er[m]
        yes, I reuploaded this exact front cover again