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      • duckfromdisc[m]
        that's possible?
      • zoedivision[m]
        sure, I have an example I nearly mucked up earlier, hold on
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      • duckfromdisc[m]
        ok whoever did alchemist 2 did it weird and it's ruining my brain rn
      • zoedivision[m]
        yeah it looks super weird lmao
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        on the one without the (2) it LINKS to a recording ***WITH*** a (2) but it's A DIFFERENT RECORDING
      • zoedivision[m]
        one of those MB-ian things that's easy to muck up and hard to fix haha
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        hard to fix is an understatement
      • which recording set gets kept?
      • oh dear and this is after afro tried to fix it
      • it used to be worse
      • afro is one of those listeners where i feel like every song ive heard is a subset of what theyve heard and they have way more
      • zoedivision[m]
        well for a start I see that some of the recordings have ISRCs attached and some don't........ I'd merge into the one with ISRC
      • but that might mean renaming later lol
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        idk man i might just not touch this
      • zoedivision[m]
        if you don't listen to him / this release, I wouldn't 😹
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        i do
      • orangebot
        Sorry to butt in, what's the best way to define a cover of a "recording"? Would the cover be considered a "recording"?
      • zoedivision[m]
        not sure i follow
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        apparently this release is a war znoe
      • s/znoe/zone/
      • zoedivision[m]
        not to be cheeky, but if it's been recorded, that's a recording
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        the (2)s got added and removed like twice
      • orangebot
        Agreed, I'm just having trouble marking the relationship type
      • zoedivision[m]
        oh I got you
      • if you're creating a cover relationship, it's going to be Recording (the cover) -> Work (what they covered)
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        you think using the ones with ISRC would make sense to merge into?
      • at this point after reading the history i'm not entirely convinced there needs to be a merge when i could swear i had a firm opinion 5 minutes ago...
      • orangebot
        Yeah, I saw that with a few other songs I was using as reference. The trouble is that the song being covered is considered a "recording", so I can't use a cover-type relationship.
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        ok you know what? hopefully this becomes votable and if no one likes it it'll just get voted down
      • zoedivision[m]
        I'm pretty sure that sort of edit isn't an auto-edit, but you can check 'enable voting on all edits' just to be sure.
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        this is gonna be a huge waste of time if downvoted
      • zoedivision[m]
        orangebot, you got the example link?
      • orangebot
      • cover of: 2f4f99fe-7319-4e6f-8cb4-ea7e9d8b0e01
      • zoedivision[m]
        i'm going to guess that your entity just doesn't have a work created yet
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        > i.e., the tracklist can have a variation of the recording's name, but link to the differently-titled recording
      • how? zoe.division (@_discord_441382104455184385:chatbrainz.org)
      • zoedivision[m]
        see the link i posted above
      • erm
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        i have " Update the recording title to match the track title." off but in the edit note it seems to add the (2)s
      • > well for a start I see that some of the recordings have ISRCs attached and some don't........ I'd merge into the one with ISRC
      • apparently the reasoning behind the split to begin with was ISRCs
      • but i dont quite get it, i still dont think having separate recordings for the same actual audio makes sense at all
      • zoedivision[m]
        yeah that's pretty weird.
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        maybe it's an editor bug?
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      • that title should remain and i wonder if it would after the actual edit happens
      • OK i see, it's tracklist vs recordings
      • but yeah, i don't see why ISRCs should decide that
      • zoedivision[m]
        @orangebot, yes it appears (at a quick glance) that nobody's yet created a Work for that particular recording
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        maybe that was just the release and not the tracks having the barcode thing
      • look ill just hit submit and at worst i lost ~15 min time i couldve been doing homework
      • orangebot
        Ah, ok. Then I've just got to make a work for it.
      • zoedivision[m]
        yep (:
      • very cool song by the way (the original)
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      • very similar in aesthetic to some of Haruomi Hosono's synth projects
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        let's see how this goes
      • orangebot
        I actually have not heard the original yet. Just ran into the cover I linked earlier today.
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        so do these recordings get deleted?
      • if the edit passes, the ones that were "duplicates"
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      • otherwise someone's gonna have to add a disambig to each of these recordings and it's not gonna be me
      • zoedivision[m]
        if you merged that's non-destructive
      • duckfromdisc[m]
        i have a feeling im gonna get downvoted here
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      • orangebot
        Oh boy, I think I'm over complicating this for myself. It's been half an hour and I'm 4 Wikipedia articles deep on what a "raga" is to make sure the "type" is correct for this work.
      • Leaving "type" blank. I can edit it later.
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