Is it correct that track titles *should* have "(live)" as ETI, even if the tracks are on a live album and their representative recordings contains the disambiguation for being a live recording?
Depends on the source imo, if it has the live tags on say Spotify then it should be in the recordings title as well
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DjSlash
Well, to me the guideline for recordings are clear, there it should be in the disambiguation. Track titles seem to be treated differently.
2025-04-09 09926, 2025
DjSlash
and when an album is mixed with, say, studio recordings and live ones, I can imagine that it can help to have it in track titles
2025-04-09 09947, 2025
Sciencentistguy
i personally tend to drop them in albums which are obviously live (e.g. release tile is "live at <location>") but keep them when its mixed (e.g. a normal deluxe edition with one or two live performances at the end)
2025-04-09 09938, 2025
DjSlash
That would be my preference too, but that's subjective ;)
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zoedivision[m]
anyone else have issues going from Harmony to MagicISRC? it's my first time using both so I'm not sure if it's an issue on my end or not
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reosarevok[m]
What issues? :)
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kepstin
zoedivision[m] you'll have to be more specific - from my logs it seems like it's working fine for plenty of people.
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M522[m]
hm, would it be edit warring to suggest an edit to undo an autoeditor edit that i think is wrong
I'd suggest adding a comment to the edit explaining why you think it is wrong as a start.
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elomatreb[m]
@522: being an auto-editor is not a guarantee that people don't make incorrect or suboptimal edits, but yeah reverting another edit without discussion is usually a bad idea
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zoedivision[m]
hey kepstin,
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zoedivision[m]
I just moved what I was working on on my desktop, to my phone, and everything worked fine, which is good, altho I'm unsure what problem my PC was having with your website or Harmony 🤷🏼♀️
2025-04-09 09942, 2025
zoedivision[m]
possibly a VPN-related issue
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kepstinbrainz
if you see it happen again, I'd appreciate a description of the actions you took and what you saw as a result. consider including screenshots.
2025-04-09 09933, 2025
kepstinbrainz
there's nothing I can do about "issues"
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zoedivision[m]
Oh! It's reproduceable on my end. The MagicISRC page told me Javascript wasn't working, or that there was a problem with my browser
2025-04-09 09950, 2025
kepstinbrainz
Hmm. That could happen if something in the code is hitting an exception. I think I'd need to see the browser javascript console logs to find out what's going wrong.
must be something specific to my browser's settings; I just can't figure out what
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kepstinbrainz
looks like you might have a browser extension installed which is interfering
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kepstinbrainz
the logs don't make sense to me - i don't *set* any content security policy, and the site doesn't have any script named "content.js"
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kepstinbrainz
which firefox version are you running?
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zoedivision[m]
it's up-to-date — 137.0.1, 64-bit
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kepstinbrainz
I'd suggest disabling extensions (perhaps one at a time) to find out which one is causing issues. if you have a userscript extension installed i'd suggest testing that one first.
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zoedivision[m]
I went ahead and just disabled all four extensions and turned off aforementioned VPN too — query still fails, albeit slightly different from before
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zoedivision[m]
(screenshot forthcoming)
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kepstinbrainz
btw, if you take a screenshot or copy the browser console, please make sure the "login" message is hidden, since that shows your musicbrainz access token.
(I don't see the login token visible? I must be missing it)
2025-04-09 09942, 2025
kepstinbrainz
you have "Logs" turned off so it's hidden
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kepstinbrainz
(i've removed the log now, so it won't be shown next time you reload the page)
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kepstinbrainz
but the content-security-policy errors still make no sense. I do not set any content-security-policy on the magicisrc page...
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zoedivision[m]
Under FF's Privacy and Security/Browser Privacy setting, I only have "Standard" selected
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zoedivision[m]
It feels to me like it's probably some setting I tinkered with once and forgot about, but it's stumping me what I could be
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julian45[m]
maybe a userscript acting on the page?
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kepstinbrainz
that's why the first thing i suggested was disabling extensions
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kepstinbrainz
could you try clearing your browser cache and then trying again with extensions disabled?
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zoedivision[m]
so uhhh I just had the bright idea 🤪 to shift+click reload and that made the page work!
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zoedivision[m]
I realized the request was instantly resolving to the error page, so I guessed it must have been cached
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zoedivision[m]
now to work back up and figure out what caused the problem in the first place 🤪 I appreciate your taking the time to help troubleshoot it
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julian45[m]
as a fellow FF user - my current leading guess would be an extension making a call somewhere that the CSP isn't happy about
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kepstinbrainz
again - I don't *set* any CSP on the page. The entire JS content of the page is an unsigned inline script, so I can't :)
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kepstinbrainz
so there must be some extension which was enabling CSP on the page, and I have no idea what that would be or why.
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julian45[m]
yeah, that's what i meant to get at w/ better wording
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zoedivision[m]
So normally I have uBlock Origin block all Javascript and add sites to the whitelist as needed............ I guess after whitelisting your domain, my browser just kept reloading a cached version. I feel quite silly for not catching on sooner.
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zoedivision[m]
Cuz I've set everything back to normal and it still works fine
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kepstinbrainz
interesting. i guess ublock origin must implement that feature by setting a csp which prevents inline javascript in the page from running, while also preventing external js files from being loaded through its normal blocking engine
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kepstinbrainz
might be worth reporting an issue to the ublock origin folks about this problem; there might be something they can do on their end to flush the cache after enabling javascript on a specific page.
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kepstinbrainz
Anyways, I've updated the message displayed when javascript fails to initialize to remind ublock origin users to clear their cache or do a shift+reload.
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LupinIII
[12:46] Sciencentistguy i personally tend to drop them in albums which are obviously live (e.g. release tile is "live at <location>") but keep them when its mixed (e.g. a normal deluxe edition with one or two live performances at the end)
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LupinIII
^^^^^^^what I agree with
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LupinIII
tbh, if you create an edit reverting an autoeditor, it's the same as reverting a regular editor. auto editors aren't "special" we're still humans
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LupinIII
<- speaking as the guy in question
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LupinIII
I left a note. myself I don't have any investment in its , I don't really agree with the refutement logic, but I'm not going to fight it. it is what it is.
