bwbuhse: if you've got tagged files, you can submit it from Picard. load it in, hit Cluster, then right-click and "Add cluster as release". if you don't have tagged files, there are some importers from other databases, like Discogs
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Aerozol[m]1
1 month since Harmony started seeding recording URL relationships, ~100k relationships added in that time (of 450k all-time)
i wonder how many correct links have been removed from the database to appease harmony in that time
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metadataismydrug
On that note(Aerozol's): Is there a userscript for MB to open the "Release Actions" page on harmony? I seen it now has a search box to go there, but a userscript adding a button would be even faster 😄
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Aerozol[m]1
Ivy: I don't think I follow - Why would Harmony need appeasing/encourage link removing? :S
2025-04-21 11139, 2025
ivy
Aerozol[m]1: i was confused as well but i've seen people remove correct links to sites like tidal or apple music because "they create wrong relationships in harmony" - i object to in edit note and raised it on the forum and no one seemed to care
Just seems like unreliable data tbh, better to store the URLs at the release and recording levels. But I don't have a really strong opinion about it
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ivy
in this case, it didn't mix up a bunch of artists, there was *one* artist who released a single which some streaming service (Tidal or Deezer, i don't remember) miscategorised
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ivy
and this was used as justification to remove the link
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Aerozol[m]1
In other words, Deezer mixed up releases from multiple "Altan" artists into one profile
2025-04-21 11141, 2025
ivy
they accidentally added one single to Altan which shouldn't be there, yes
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Aerozol[m]1
But sorry that you butted heads with another editor, that definitely happens to me every few years D:
2025-04-21 11146, 2025
ivy
Altan have (i think) 13+ albums, all of which were on Deezer (or Tidal or whatever it was) and now we don't have that information because of one error in one single...
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Aerozol[m]1
Based on the forum topic, you would be well within your rights to re-add the link, as a votable edit, and let the editor who removed it know. I think you just didn't get replies because nobody had anything to add
is yvanzo the other person who edits a bunch of Irish folk stuff, because if so i applaud that but also i have better things to do than get into edit wars on MB, you know :-d
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Aerozol[m]1
Yah I know, but sometimes better to put something to a vote than be annoyed at the database for ages! I feel you though
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Aerozol[m]1
Othe fun stats: in 2020 users added about 700 releases /day, now in 2025 it is about 1700 releases /day
I can't quite understand the style guide on language. I have a collection of French songs from an English company. The collection title and all the track names and artists are in French, but the supporting text (legal/procedural wording and the contents of the booklets) is in English. I guess there are more words in English, but the all of the most important words are in French. What should I use as the language?
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kepstinbrainz
the script and language on the musicbrainz release should be set based on the language of the most important metadata - track and release titles being the primary thing.
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Toasty
Thanks.
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riedler[m]
heyo, what's the rules on adding music that has only been released via a folder within a steam game?
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riedler[m]
oh also it seems that updates have extended the list of tracks, but I don't really have a history of the changes nor concrete release dates
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kepstin
should be analogous to e.g. back when games were published on cd which included music as audio tracks on the same disc. the release itself is the game, and the music is one "medium" on the release.
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kepstin
the updates make it a bit trickier tho :/
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riedler[m]
I mean, if I had enough data on the various versions I'd just make them releases inside of the same release group…
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riedler[m]
should I just make a release for the latest version (incl. publish date of that version) and call it a day?
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kepstinbrainz
that would make sense, i think. if someone is able to e.g. poke through steam release history to find when files were added, they might be able to backfill other versions later.
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kepstinbrainz
I'd suggest adding an annotation to the release stating that some tracklist has been modified over time with game updates.
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riedler[m]
oki, thanks for the help
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riedler[m]
oh, also! since these tracks aren't ordered, should I go … alphabetic order?
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kepstin
if there's no other obvious order, the order that the files are listed in the directory would make sense
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riedler[m]
oki :neofox_happy:
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tarulia[m]
check the tags too, I've had things on steam come with weird filenames but the tags were at least somewhat resembling an order
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riedler[m]
all I can gleam from the metadata is that the songs were made with FL studio… looks like they literally just pressed export, skip, skip and copied the file as-is into the game
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tarulia[m]
baller move tho
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riedler[m]
true
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riedler[m]
oh they also specify BPM for some reason
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riedler[m]
might be an FL feature idk
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tarulia[m]
oh wait, so they are just part of the game files and not an actual soundtrack release on Steam?
I guess :neofox_confused: idk, release type can be easily changed after the fact, so I'll just trust your judgement call
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tarulia[m]
what I mean is just the distinction between taking gamefiles and putting them in a listing, and an actual soundtrack release on Steam
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tarulia[m]
but Steam is also kinda weird about this. Shadow of the Tomb Raider for example (at least the definitive edition) installs the soundtrack automatically as a DLC:... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/GrLwSpYeBSsijlfeVDqqcQGW>)
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tarulia[m]
But there are other games where the soundtrack is explicitely listed on the game's page
