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      • Piper[m]
        For deluxe editions of an album, should the "deluxe edition" be part of the name or the disambiguation?... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/yojaMbJCosskuQXmAsVzOVNJ>)
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      • Piper[m]
        or, apparently the bonus third option, both? https://musicbrainz.org/release/b9d25986-338e-4fe…
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      • aerozol[m]
        Looks good houtens (IRC) ! I’ve removed the CD tracks from the digital media release as well :)
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      • aerozol[m]
        I think it was fine to copy over the AcoustID, and to use them for the track lengths
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      • zoedivision[m]
        has it ever been discussed whether tracks can be linked to multiple recordings?
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      • RandomMushroom12
        they can't, but why do you want that?
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      • zoedivision[m]
        CD tracks containing more than one discrete recording
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      • zoedivision[m]
        Like a hidden track
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      • zoedivision[m]
        I've even seen one or two discs with an obvs mastering error where what should have been two separate tracks got sequenced into one long track
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      • RandomMushroom12
        i see, a workaround would be to create a new recording and link that to the original two recordings ("compilation of")
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      • zoedivision[m]
        makes sense, makes sense
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      • rustynova[m]
        *me casually submitting 68 recording edits at once*
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      • rustynova[m]
        Harmony's recording links was a mistake lol
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      • kellnerd[m] confesses that he has never used that feature 😇
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      • kellnerd[m]
        Too much work for too little benefit IMO, but I may be convinced otherwise once there are tools actually making use of that data.
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      • YoMo12[m]
        Hopefully one day it will help with LB matching...
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      • YoMo12[m]
        Currently most of the stuff I add is not picking up on LB automatically because Spotify sends with artist credits in Latin script or tracks in Latin script VS what is in the database.
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      • rustynova[m]
        Or brainzplayer matching.
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      • rustynova[m]
        Personally I add them because I like having the full metadata present, and it could be useful for like... 2 people?
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      • rustynova[m]
        Joking aside, it's useful for linktree type stuff, since I'm making something like that as a booster shot for my web dev knowledge
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      • afrocat_[m]
        i was pretty excited about recording URLs when the feature got introduced to Harmony but tbh I don't really add them anymore
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      • afrocat_[m]
        If I could import those URLs directly to my files with picard then I might be convinced though...
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      • rustynova[m]
        To me it's like ISRCs. I don't need them, but it exists so I add. Even more that YoMo's open all scripts makes it easy
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      • Piper[m]
        there's a lot of data in MusicBrainz that I personally don't use, but I'll fill out every field I can just because someone might benefit from it somehow
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      • Piper[m]
        now or in the future
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      • rustynova[m]
        I definitely could see links used as a way to find dupe releases
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      • rustynova[m]
        (And totally not already on my to-do list of things to add to Alistral)
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      • zoedivision[m]
        Would it be appropriate to merge releases that are essentially identical, just with different release events/labels?
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      • zoedivision[m]
        Like if even the barcodes are still the same between regions
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      • Piper[m]
        IMO the distinction is whether the packaging for each label is different - if the packaging is the same (it's the same SKU) then it's the same release
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      • Piper[m]
        I don't know how that applies to digital media though
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      • zoedivision[m]
        I have physical media in mind tbh
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      • dvirtz[m]
        Would it help if there was a Latin alias?
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      • dvirtz[m]
        Maybe Harmony could add that
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      • Piper[m]
        does LB search aliases?
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      • anomie_[m]
        The Wikidata import script is much more useful than I assumed at first
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      • YoMo12[m]
        dvirtz (@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org) and @Piper currently LB does not search for alias or alternate track titles.
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      • BobSwift[m]
        <zoedivision[m]> "Would it be appropriate to merge..." <- I'm guessing that if the label was different, the coverart would also be different, thus triggering a separate release.
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      • zoedivision[m]
        I'm presuming we mean not so much the cover art per se, as print on the spine, back, disc, etc wherever the label info shows
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      • zoedivision[m]
        my inner Occam would much prefer keeping these kinds of instances as one item, but yknow, c'est la vie
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      • leonardo
        i have a problem understanding the relationship between companies on this record https://thevernonspring.bandcamp.com/album/under-…
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      • leonardo
        it says "2025 Lanugo Fur under exclusive license to RVNG Intl"
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      • leonardo
        so the original label is probably Lanugo Fur, which is listed on discogs for the vinyl version of the release, it has a catalog number too https://www.discogs.com/release/34038046-The-Vern…
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      • leonardo
        but also on RVNG Intl there is a webpage for the same album https://igetrvng.com/products/the-vernon-spring-u…
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      • leonardo
        on apple music, a third company appears, OPIA https://music.apple.com/us/album/under-a-familiar…
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      • leonardo
        would be appropriate to list all three of them as labels?
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      • anomie_[m]
        It's just one of those days
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      • kellnerd[m]
        Link please?
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      • anomie_[m]
        There were some discrepancies when I disambiguated artists manually instead of referencing the other release these recordings came from, so I would appreciate a second pair of eyes
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      • aerozol[m]
        zoe.division: hard no for merging releases with different labels. Particularly physical media? The packaging has to be different, e.g. a different label logo?
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      • aerozol[m]
        Any difference in artwork, including disc, back, etc, is a new physical release
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      • Piper[m]
        hell, there's an argument for a pre-autographed copy being a separate release
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      • aerozol[m]
        Hmm interesting, I guess so! If it was sold as a separate item and has collectors value. I don’t know if I would bother though :D
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      • Piper[m]
        I'd only bother if I were already adding multiple different releases for a release group (e.g. different vinyl colors or something) and saw an autographed copy as a separate SKU on a record store website or something
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      • Aerozol[m]1
        Insanely excited about rustynova (@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org)'s "linkbrainz" project!!
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      • zoedivision[m]
        trainspotters gunna spot trains, lol
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      • YoMo12[m]
        Totally missed it! Niceeee!
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      • dvirtz[m]
        leonardo, I would have Lanugo Fur as the label and link the other two as `licensed to`: https://beta.musicbrainz.org/relationship/e77cb4a…
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      • leonardo
        that's a nice suggestion, i'll try that thanks
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