(besides time, chai, a vacation....ok poor question)...
2017-02-27 05807, 2017
Quesito
does BB have active helpers?
2017-02-27 05816, 2017
Leftmost
Seed data is a big one. We've tossed around a few ideas on a marked import from public domain sources, but we haven't taken any steps.
2017-02-27 05849, 2017
ruaok
I also perceive a bit of a chicken and the egg problem here.
2017-02-27 05821, 2017
ruaok
there are sources for us to contact about data to import. but those conversations can be hard before we have a well functioning system.
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
Quesito
could it be possible to ask IA for the OL data? or do you want dummy data?
2017-02-27 05830, 2017
Leftmost
Ideally, we could also get some feedback from someone with more UX sense.
2017-02-27 05850, 2017
ruaok
back in nov I asked Leftmost to put together a MVP plan for BB. Soon I should have time to think about that in detail.
2017-02-27 05817, 2017
Quesito
oh--can I see it?
2017-02-27 05818, 2017
Leftmost
Well, the OL data is a pretty big mess. I'd been thinking the US Library of Congress, the Deutsche Nationalbibliothek, that sort of resource.
2017-02-27 05828, 2017
Leftmost
What's your MeB email? I'll share it out.
2017-02-27 05844, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: I have some UX notes--although I am not a UX designer or anything of the sort....
2017-02-27 05846, 2017
ruaok
if I had anything to do with it, I would propose these steps: 1) MVP for editing 2) A little polish 3) Solicit data/partnerships.
2017-02-27 05805, 2017
Quesito
elizabeth@meb
2017-02-27 05806, 2017
ruaok
Quesito: is UX something that interests you?
2017-02-27 05838, 2017
Leftmost
Linked.
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
Leftmost
s/Linked/Shared/
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
zag joined the channel
2017-02-27 05807, 2017
Quesito
ruaok: it's something I'm taking note of for our products as far as being a newbie and understanding them....a lot of things interest me :P
2017-02-27 05831, 2017
Leftmost
Careful with that. A lot of things interest me, and I'm useless. ;-P
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
ruaok
well, we have continued demand for it. gcilou is helping, but I suspect that uni will suck her in all too soon.
2017-02-27 05844, 2017
Quesito
LOL--thats true Leftmost!
2017-02-27 05820, 2017
ruaok
if UX is something you'd like to study, and possibly get some professional support on, then I think you could be of great service to the project.
2017-02-27 05833, 2017
ruaok
prejects. we all need help.
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
Quesito
ruaok: I currently have a sm idea that involves me creating a little programming that I'd like to dive into...
2017-02-27 05852, 2017
Quesito
we see ;)
2017-02-27 05853, 2017
ruaok
and our prerejects, those people reject before we formally reject them.
2017-02-27 05806, 2017
ruaok
like I should've been. :)
2017-02-27 05835, 2017
Leftmost
We all need help, but Freso most of all.
2017-02-27 05840, 2017
ruaok
Quesito: great, I'd love to see your idea and this suggestion take shape.
2017-02-27 05805, 2017
ruaok
I thought your mom needed the most help, Leftmost
2017-02-27 05837, 2017
Leftmost
No, she's a lot more composed than I am. :-P
2017-02-27 05839, 2017
Quesito
first--back to BB Leftmost I love the idea of the level of data you want form lib of congress etc.
2017-02-27 05848, 2017
Quesito
I am reading over your mvp plan
2017-02-27 05814, 2017
Leftmost
On a personal level, I'm trying an open source project for gamifying habit-building as a motivator/tracker for doing some BB work (as well as some other stuff).
2017-02-27 05832, 2017
ruaok
habitica?
2017-02-27 05801, 2017
Leftmost
That's the one!
2017-02-27 05826, 2017
ruaok
I haven't used it yet, but the founders of habitica wanted some OSS advice at ORD Camp.
2017-02-27 05833, 2017
ruaok
the only free slot they could find was at...
2017-02-27 05835, 2017
ruaok
3am
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
ruaok
so, all the open source nerds trudged to a 3am meeting. with booze.
2017-02-27 05859, 2017
ruaok
great meeting. :)
2017-02-27 05816, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: are you in need of project management?
2017-02-27 05819, 2017
Leftmost
Sounds like. :)
2017-02-27 05834, 2017
Leftmost
Quesito, in what sense?
2017-02-27 05835, 2017
Quesito
I'd attend that 3am meeting, no problem....
2017-02-27 05850, 2017
ruaok
I trudged out the "We inadvertently created a 100% non-profit business model licensing free shit we don't own."
2017-02-27 05808, 2017
ruaok
100% profit non-profit...
2017-02-27 05823, 2017
ruaok
that got some raised eyebrows and chuckles.
2017-02-27 05842, 2017
ruaok
Leftmost: my chicago friends promptly created a guild on habitica.
2017-02-27 05808, 2017
Leftmost
Very nice. I've been using it three days now and it already seems to be having a positive impact.
2017-02-27 05850, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: well it seems like you have a path, and know what needs to happen.
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
Leftmost
I'd like to think so.
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
Quesito
Well just form this convo, I'm understanding the project better and where it is sitting, and/or the current issues involved.
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
Quesito
What is your timeline for BB?
2017-02-27 05834, 2017
Leftmost
Glad I could help. :) And always feel free to ask questions. Keeps my mind on it, if nothing else.
2017-02-27 05846, 2017
Leftmost
Ahh, well, *mumblemumblemumble*.
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
Quesito
lol
2017-02-27 05816, 2017
Quesito feels bad about monday morning badgering of team....
2017-02-27 05851, 2017
Leftmost
Badgering me is how you get me to do things. :-P
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
ruaok
something has to get us going. :)
2017-02-27 05806, 2017
ruaok
scream driven, as I like to call it.
2017-02-27 05815, 2017
ruaok
HEY ROB, DO THIS SHIT!
2017-02-27 05819, 2017
ruaok
oh ok. :)
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
Leftmost
"Sean, why haven't you done this?" "Oh, crap, on it!"
2017-02-27 05840, 2017
agentsim has quit
2017-02-27 05856, 2017
ruaok wonders who sean is
2017-02-27 05814, 2017
Leftmost
Some nerd.
2017-02-27 05833, 2017
samj1912
Freso they want an offline song duplicate detector, I think acoustid will do good for that
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
Freso
Ah, yes.
2017-02-27 05859, 2017
Freso
Not 100%, but probably Close Enough™.
2017-02-27 05804, 2017
samj1912
They can use temporary uuids to compare, I'd recommend musicbrainz but they want something offline
2017-02-27 05811, 2017
Freso
(Esp. "karaoke"/instrumental versions and vocal versions seem to be prone to getting the same AcoustID.)
2017-02-27 05824, 2017
Freso
Well, isn't an AcoustID a UUID?
2017-02-27 05839, 2017
Quesito
i'm ok with a little badgering....but monday is already a rough day ;)
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
Freso
But I think maybe AcoustIDs are also generated upstream.
2017-02-27 05801, 2017
Freso
But they could run their own acoustid server....
2017-02-27 05812, 2017
Freso
Or they could just use the AcoustID/fpcalc fingerprints.
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
Leftmost offers Quesito some homemade cheese. (Nothing fancy, just paneer.)
2017-02-27 05839, 2017
Freso
But yeah, advocating AcoustID with this would certainly be good. Getting wider usage of one of our related projects and avoiding another xkcd:927.
2017-02-27 05839, 2017
Quesito
So Leftmost timeline is left on the table, perhaps you all need some developers to help?
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
Leftmost
I'd say so. Only Ben and I really contribute at this pont, and there's a lot of work to be done between the two of us, with both of us working.
2017-02-27 05824, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: will always accept paneer....(and most cheeses) but a good homemade paneer is priceless
2017-02-27 05832, 2017
Quesito
;)
2017-02-27 05824, 2017
Quesito
yeah, ok. I dont know anything about habitica, or if it's personal use versus open-- how do you feel about using the boards in jira?
2017-02-27 05857, 2017
Freso
Quesito: Jira has the downside that it's only really relevant for MeB stuff. (But yes, MeB stuff should surely go there!)
2017-02-27 05858, 2017
Quesito
or are you and Ben in a position to have some contributors help at this point? (with ease?)
I've been wanting to do that. We use them at work, and I find them very helpful there. Habitica isn't really meant to be detailed project tracking, just a way to get me to think about BB periodically.
2017-02-27 05817, 2017
Leftmost
I set up a kanban board for BB, but haven't taken the time to really put it together.
2017-02-27 05824, 2017
Freso
samj1912: :)
2017-02-27 05804, 2017
Quesito
right on Leftmost. perhaps this may help with community members helping out periodically.
2017-02-27 05834, 2017
Quesito
It's quite a nice project. and it could go in some very nice directions.
2017-02-27 05837, 2017
Quesito
Freso: how is Jira only really relevant for MeB stuff?
2017-02-27 05819, 2017
ruaok
Quesito, Freso, Gentlecat, alastairp: zas is in town. Anyone up for drinks or dinner?
2017-02-27 05828, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: I'll marinate on the info from this convo--and may have more questions for you in the future. For the moment you have been very helpful on getting me up to speed about BB. I appreciate you taking the time!
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
Quesito
ruaok: In!
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
Freso
Quesito: It's hosted by Jira, so you wouldn't want to put in "Drink 2l of water", "Read 3 pages in a book", "Contact person from XYZ about scholarship", ...
2017-02-27 05839, 2017
zas
in!
2017-02-27 05841, 2017
Freso
*hosted by MeB
2017-02-27 05844, 2017
ruaok
we'll have to say no to strippers and coke this time, since zas' daughter is likely in going to be in tow. :)
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
Freso
In. :)
2017-02-27 05857, 2017
Leftmost
No problem at all!
2017-02-27 05858, 2017
zas
haha
2017-02-27 05822, 2017
Gentlecat
what's wrong with coke?
2017-02-27 05823, 2017
Leftmost
ruaok, so it has to be strippers XOR coke?
2017-02-27 05833, 2017
ruaok
Quesito: will you do the honors and choose a place this time. people will give you less grief if you make the less than absolutely perfect restaurant choice. :)
2017-02-27 05844, 2017
ruaok
Leftmost: <3
2017-02-27 05806, 2017
ruaok
Gentlecat: you sure you're thinking about the right coke?
2017-02-27 05819, 2017
Quesito
ruaok: sure....np
2017-02-27 05837, 2017
Gentlecat
probably not
2017-02-27 05855, 2017
ruaok
oh and fair warning: this will be a "no mobile phones event". put your phone in the tech stack at the beginning.
2017-02-27 05804, 2017
Quesito
ruaok: is it drinks or dinner? or both?
2017-02-27 05805, 2017
ruaok
the first person to pull their phone out before dinner is over, pays the bill.
2017-02-27 05821, 2017
Quesito
(since it's not strippers or coke?)
2017-02-27 05827, 2017
Gentlecat
mobile world dinner
2017-02-27 05828, 2017
ruaok
Quesito: I'm happy to do both.
2017-02-27 05852, 2017
zas
drinks+diner+no phone... nice concept
2017-02-27 05817, 2017
zas
much better than no drinks+no diner+phone anyway
2017-02-27 05820, 2017
ruaok
zas: yep. and if everyone is respectful with their phones, metabrainz pays.
2017-02-27 05835, 2017
ruaok
zas: yes, much nicer.
2017-02-27 05819, 2017
Quesito
Freso: so I'm confused--I was talking about using jira to keep track of BB issues/goals...
2017-02-27 05837, 2017
Freso
Quesito: Right. Habitica is not the place to do that. :)
2017-02-27 05838, 2017
ruaok dreadfully trudges towards correos
2017-02-27 05811, 2017
Freso
Quesito: Habitica is like a gamified personal to-do list.
2017-02-27 05812, 2017
Quesito
zas: any eating preferences?
2017-02-27 05834, 2017
Quesito
Freso: yes, which from my understanding is what Leftmost is trying out for himself.
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
Freso
Yep.
2017-02-27 05852, 2017
Freso
reosarevok and myself at least are also using it.
2017-02-27 05853, 2017
zas
not really, hardly ate anything bad in bcn yet
2017-02-27 05800, 2017
Quesito
Freso: I think we are both saying the same thing :)
2017-02-27 05813, 2017
Leftmost
Freso, are we going to have to create a MeB guild or party?
2017-02-27 05819, 2017
Freso
Leftmost: Sure!
2017-02-27 05823, 2017
Quesito
right on zas!
2017-02-27 05836, 2017
Quesito maybe i need to try this gamify thing for personal projects too......sounds fun....
2017-02-27 05816, 2017
Quesito
Leftmost: one last q for today--is this MVP doc up to date with needs etc? all are current right?
2017-02-27 05847, 2017
Leftmost
Should be.
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
Quesito
awesome thanks
2017-02-27 05806, 2017
Quesito
Freso: just to circle back--to ensure I am understanding correctly we should all be using Jira for MeB projects, right?
2017-02-27 05813, 2017
Freso
Yes!
2017-02-27 05825, 2017
Quesito
awesome we are on the same page! ;D
2017-02-27 05823, 2017
Quesito
zas: whats the age range of your kiddo so I can pick an appropriate place (probably without strippers and/or coke) ?
2017-02-27 05829, 2017
alastairp
ruaok: drinks or dinner sounds fun. I'm busy today + tomorrow but can probably fit any other day this week
2017-02-27 05802, 2017
zas
12
2017-02-27 05821, 2017
Quesito
gracias :)
2017-02-27 05843, 2017
alastairp
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