What is the reason you want to cancel ruaok ? If we do a hack weekend instead, it doesn't change much. Who in BCN can replace ruaok for such event ?
CatQuest
(I've had nothing much to report last week either. didn't do much. sorry for missin it by 20 minutes :/)
ruaok
my basic feeling right now is to just quit. shut everything down, find a normal job.
Freso
ruaok: I'd be happy to run it to the best of my ability, but I'm not familiar with the code base, technicalities of NewHost/Docker/etc., I'm not that familiar with Barcelona, etc.
ruaok
your call, Freso.
Freso
ruaok: Will you help me or am I completely on my own?
ruaok
I'll participate on the technical aspects. but the hosting/finding meals and all that shit is on you.
CatQuest
isn't that the sort of thing freso is for anyway? :P
Freso
ruaok: We can do the hacking itself at the office, right?
ruaok
depends if you want to have a working bathroom or not. currently not working, unsure if I can get it sorted before the event.
Freso
ruaok: Will you (help me) reach out to Google, Spotify, etc.?
ruaok
no.
we can absorb the cost for 2-3 people coming.
Freso
Okay.
We have three people coming, and it would be good to move the NewHost thing ahead as much as possible so we can start doing other things soon.
So let's go ahead.
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[picard] zas closed pull request #479: id3: Remove various mutagen hacks which no longer work with newer mutagen (master...remove-mutagen-hacks) https://git.io/vKbBK
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Freso
It would be good to have bitmap join too though.
reosarevok
Does that include bitmap? (since I see he's not listed as attending yet)
Oh :)
CatQuest
def get bitmap!
zas
yes.
bitmap?
CatQuest
bitmap get!
?????
profit!
bitmap
if there's still an event, I'll come
Freso
That'd be four people coming.
reosarevok
Isn't bitmap the only one that's coming from very far and will be pricey though?
Freso
I can try and reach out to Google at least, if I get a contact mail.
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metabrainz/picard#1434 (master - fb3e993 : Laurent Monin): The build passed.
So maybe we can live with four, even though Google help would definitely, er, help
CatQuest
bitmap does the best work thoguh
Freso
ruaok: Is that acceptable?
ruaok
fine
Freso
Great. It
's on then. :)
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reosarevok
I'll skip this one I guess since I would be of no help with the whole newhost thing :)
I'll be around and online though
Freso
15 minutes... well, let's see if it's enough.
CatQuest
you cna hang with me reosarevok :P
Freso
Freso: Splitting Discourse's MB category
reosarevok
I mean, I should hang with my classmates and not skip school this year then :)
reosarevok lets Freso go on
Freso
There is both a lot of technical discussion and a lot of more "user(/editor) oriented" discussion currently happening in the MusicBrainz category on Discourse. I have been thinking about making one or more subcategories for a while, and now other people have started to ask for it too, so I guess it's due time.
But should it be an "editor" (or "user") sub-category, or a "development"/"technical" one? Or both? A category will, by default, show topics of all sub-categories, so going to /c/musicbrainz will still show everything, so making two subcategories would allow people to visit the one they care about. It is also possible to use /c/musicbrainz/none to only display topics directly in the MusicBrainz category,
so that may be the option for those who do not care about the contents of sub-categories.
So I can't quite decide on the best approach.
reosarevok
I think it makes sense to have a separate dev category
Freso
Yeah.
CatQuest agrees with reosarevok
LordSputnik
+1
reosarevok
But on the other hand, if that shows still in the main one, it feels kinda weird
At least though having a dev cat makes it easier to skip those if desired than having nothing
CatQuest
I also think a "halp how do I x" kinda edit" type ones should have its own cat roo
reosarevok
So I'd start with that
CatQuest
too
*
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Freso
LordSputnik: ?
reosarevok
If that's not enough, we can do more later
Freso
Alright. What would call the subcategory?
reosarevok
We can have a "newbie" category if desired too
Not sure if that's useful at the moment yet
Freso
"Technical"? "Development"?
reosarevok
MusicBrainz/Development I guess
Freso
But help with VMs etc. aren't really "development" per se.
CatQuest
i strongly feel it would help if we had a "editing/interface/musicbrainz issues" cat for things like people asking how to do something, why osmething is doen the way it is or hlep on how to do something with *editing* it would be easier for peopel to look up things too if it had it's on cat
I like "techincal" and "editing"
.. how about Musicbrainz DevTec
Freso
I think it's fine to do just the tech one first. Then we can see how that works out for people and look at it again in a few weeks.
CatQuest
that sounds snazy, nd we really aren't that necesarry to be anal about terminaology as long as people understand what its for
Freso: yea, sure :)
zas
Technical can be subdivided later if needed anyway ;)
Freso
Mhm.
reosarevok
Dunno, it's just "technical" doesn't say anything to me
CatQuest
yea, I , with limited usderstanding of thiese thnigs. would except "development"
Freso
Alright. Let's stick with "Development" then.
CatQuest
.. "musicbrainz devel" as an old echo to the old #chan? :D
Freso
And mailing list. :)
CatQuest
yes!
it's got history too :D
Freso
(Which Discourse is a successor to.)
CatQuest
indeed
musicbrainz devel then? :o
Freso
(Which I also need to chat with zas about getting done. :p)
I'll probably use /c/musicbrainz/devel but call it Development.
CatQuest
done how?
:)
zas
Freso: about that, we have to move Discourse to gcloud
Freso
CatQuest: So that's it's possible to create topics by sending an e-mail and reply to posts by replying by e-mail.
CatQuest
DevTec sounds like some kind of Robocop brand
Freso
zas: That's fine.
CatQuest
Freso: oh yea, that was missing, and shoudl be doen asap yea
Freso
zas: It's basically that we need to set up a Google Mail account for it.
Which Discourse can then be configured to check.
But let's talk about this post-meeting or some other time.
zas
k
Freso
I think we got to a resolution on this point:
CatQuest
that way the old mailinglisters (hopefully) also will be involved lei kthey used to
Freso
1) Create /c/musicbrainz/devel and move tech. stuff there.
CatQuest
I volunteer to help!
or e i woudl i guess but probably i can't do it
Freso
2) See how /c/musicbrainz fares over the next few weeks and consider/evaluate then if we also want to make a users/editors subcat.
CatQuest
also probably i'll be buzy too :(
Freso
Anything I missed?
CatQuest
lgtm
Freso
Alright. It's a wrap then.
Thanks for your time!
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CatQuest
wrap up!
Freso
zas: As I said, we basically just need to set up a mail account for it and then configure Discourse to use that. I'd use the already made discourse@meb, but it seems that one forwards to support@, and that would be a bit much. :)
Maybe community@meb?
CatQuest
👍
zas
+1
CatQuest
how would it know which user? email from?
reosarevok
Sounds reasonable
CatQuest
that means I could use my catquest....@gmail then
Freso
CatQuest: I think/guess so.
CatQuest
that's verry good
Freso
zas: Want to make a MBH ticket?
+me
zas
I can create it now
Freso
Okay. :)
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews
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ruaok: community@meb exists as an alias on your account, and Freso is asking for an account for that, can we remove the alias or should we use another name ?
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Freso
Remove the alias. I don't think it's ever been posted anywhere.
I had forgotten all about it too. :p
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zas: PM or mail me the password for the account once you've set it up. (If you're able to enable POP3 access to it from the admin site too, that'd be perfect.)
I think I have pretty much set it all up on the Discourse set, except for the account password.
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