What is the reason you want to cancel ruaok ? If we do a hack weekend instead, it doesn't change much. Who in BCN can replace ruaok for such event ?
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CatQuest
(I've had nothing much to report last week either. didn't do much. sorry for missin it by 20 minutes :/)
2016-08-22 23524, 2016
ruaok
my basic feeling right now is to just quit. shut everything down, find a normal job.
2016-08-22 23524, 2016
Freso
ruaok: I'd be happy to run it to the best of my ability, but I'm not familiar with the code base, technicalities of NewHost/Docker/etc., I'm not that familiar with Barcelona, etc.
2016-08-22 23520, 2016
ruaok
your call, Freso.
2016-08-22 23520, 2016
Freso
ruaok: Will you help me or am I completely on my own?
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ruaok
I'll participate on the technical aspects. but the hosting/finding meals and all that shit is on you.
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CatQuest
isn't that the sort of thing freso is for anyway? :P
2016-08-22 23559, 2016
Freso
ruaok: We can do the hacking itself at the office, right?
2016-08-22 23529, 2016
ruaok
depends if you want to have a working bathroom or not. currently not working, unsure if I can get it sorted before the event.
2016-08-22 23550, 2016
Freso
ruaok: Will you (help me) reach out to Google, Spotify, etc.?
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ruaok
no.
2016-08-22 23520, 2016
ruaok
we can absorb the cost for 2-3 people coming.
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Freso
Okay.
2016-08-22 23513, 2016
Freso
We have three people coming, and it would be good to move the NewHost thing ahead as much as possible so we can start doing other things soon.
2016-08-22 23519, 2016
Freso
So let's go ahead.
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github
[picard] zas closed pull request #479: id3: Remove various mutagen hacks which no longer work with newer mutagen (master...remove-mutagen-hacks) https://git.io/vKbBK
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Freso
It would be good to have bitmap join too though.
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reosarevok
Does that include bitmap? (since I see he's not listed as attending yet)
2016-08-22 23556, 2016
reosarevok
Oh :)
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CatQuest
def get bitmap!
2016-08-22 23521, 2016
zas
yes.
2016-08-22 23524, 2016
zas
bitmap?
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CatQuest
bitmap get!
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CatQuest
?????
2016-08-22 23533, 2016
CatQuest
profit!
2016-08-22 23538, 2016
bitmap
if there's still an event, I'll come
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Freso
That'd be four people coming.
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reosarevok
Isn't bitmap the only one that's coming from very far and will be pricey though?
2016-08-22 23555, 2016
Freso
I can try and reach out to Google at least, if I get a contact mail.
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travis-ci
metabrainz/picard#1434 (master - fb3e993 : Laurent Monin): The build passed.
So maybe we can live with four, even though Google help would definitely, er, help
2016-08-22 23557, 2016
CatQuest
bitmap does the best work thoguh
2016-08-22 23503, 2016
Freso
ruaok: Is that acceptable?
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ruaok
fine
2016-08-22 23519, 2016
Freso
Great. It
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Freso
's on then. :)
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reosarevok
I'll skip this one I guess since I would be of no help with the whole newhost thing :)
2016-08-22 23547, 2016
reosarevok
I'll be around and online though
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Freso
15 minutes... well, let's see if it's enough.
2016-08-22 23505, 2016
CatQuest
you cna hang with me reosarevok :P
2016-08-22 23520, 2016
Freso
Freso: Splitting Discourse's MB category
2016-08-22 23522, 2016
reosarevok
I mean, I should hang with my classmates and not skip school this year then :)
2016-08-22 23530, 2016
reosarevok lets Freso go on
2016-08-22 23534, 2016
Freso
There is both a lot of technical discussion and a lot of more "user(/editor) oriented" discussion currently happening in the MusicBrainz category on Discourse. I have been thinking about making one or more subcategories for a while, and now other people have started to ask for it too, so I guess it's due time.
2016-08-22 23535, 2016
Freso
But should it be an "editor" (or "user") sub-category, or a "development"/"technical" one? Or both? A category will, by default, show topics of all sub-categories, so going to /c/musicbrainz will still show everything, so making two subcategories would allow people to visit the one they care about. It is also possible to use /c/musicbrainz/none to only display topics directly in the MusicBrainz category,
2016-08-22 23537, 2016
Freso
so that may be the option for those who do not care about the contents of sub-categories.
2016-08-22 23557, 2016
Freso
So I can't quite decide on the best approach.
2016-08-22 23500, 2016
reosarevok
I think it makes sense to have a separate dev category
2016-08-22 23510, 2016
Freso
Yeah.
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CatQuest agrees with reosarevok
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LordSputnik
+1
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reosarevok
But on the other hand, if that shows still in the main one, it feels kinda weird
2016-08-22 23546, 2016
reosarevok
At least though having a dev cat makes it easier to skip those if desired than having nothing
2016-08-22 23546, 2016
CatQuest
I also think a "halp how do I x" kinda edit" type ones should have its own cat roo
2016-08-22 23548, 2016
reosarevok
So I'd start with that
2016-08-22 23551, 2016
CatQuest
too
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CatQuest
*
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Freso
LordSputnik: ?
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reosarevok
If that's not enough, we can do more later
2016-08-22 23526, 2016
Freso
Alright. What would call the subcategory?
2016-08-22 23526, 2016
reosarevok
We can have a "newbie" category if desired too
2016-08-22 23534, 2016
reosarevok
Not sure if that's useful at the moment yet
2016-08-22 23539, 2016
Freso
"Technical"? "Development"?
2016-08-22 23542, 2016
reosarevok
MusicBrainz/Development I guess
2016-08-22 23503, 2016
Freso
But help with VMs etc. aren't really "development" per se.
2016-08-22 23524, 2016
CatQuest
i strongly feel it would help if we had a "editing/interface/musicbrainz issues" cat for things like people asking how to do something, why osmething is doen the way it is or hlep on how to do something with *editing* it would be easier for peopel to look up things too if it had it's on cat
2016-08-22 23546, 2016
CatQuest
I like "techincal" and "editing"
2016-08-22 23530, 2016
CatQuest
.. how about Musicbrainz DevTec
2016-08-22 23534, 2016
Freso
I think it's fine to do just the tech one first. Then we can see how that works out for people and look at it again in a few weeks.
2016-08-22 23553, 2016
CatQuest
that sounds snazy, nd we really aren't that necesarry to be anal about terminaology as long as people understand what its for
2016-08-22 23527, 2016
CatQuest
Freso: yea, sure :)
2016-08-22 23536, 2016
zas
Technical can be subdivided later if needed anyway ;)
2016-08-22 23542, 2016
Freso
Mhm.
2016-08-22 23550, 2016
reosarevok
Dunno, it's just "technical" doesn't say anything to me
2016-08-22 23513, 2016
CatQuest
yea, I , with limited usderstanding of thiese thnigs. would except "development"
2016-08-22 23553, 2016
Freso
Alright. Let's stick with "Development" then.
2016-08-22 23553, 2016
CatQuest
.. "musicbrainz devel" as an old echo to the old #chan? :D
2016-08-22 23501, 2016
Freso
And mailing list. :)
2016-08-22 23505, 2016
CatQuest
yes!
2016-08-22 23510, 2016
CatQuest
it's got history too :D
2016-08-22 23510, 2016
Freso
(Which Discourse is a successor to.)
2016-08-22 23514, 2016
CatQuest
indeed
2016-08-22 23530, 2016
CatQuest
musicbrainz devel then? :o
2016-08-22 23531, 2016
Freso
(Which I also need to chat with zas about getting done. :p)
2016-08-22 23549, 2016
Freso
I'll probably use /c/musicbrainz/devel but call it Development.
2016-08-22 23550, 2016
CatQuest
done how?
2016-08-22 23559, 2016
CatQuest
:)
2016-08-22 23510, 2016
zas
Freso: about that, we have to move Discourse to gcloud
2016-08-22 23518, 2016
Freso
CatQuest: So that's it's possible to create topics by sending an e-mail and reply to posts by replying by e-mail.
2016-08-22 23522, 2016
CatQuest
DevTec sounds like some kind of Robocop brand
2016-08-22 23528, 2016
Freso
zas: That's fine.
2016-08-22 23542, 2016
CatQuest
Freso: oh yea, that was missing, and shoudl be doen asap yea
2016-08-22 23545, 2016
Freso
zas: It's basically that we need to set up a Google Mail account for it.
2016-08-22 23500, 2016
Freso
Which Discourse can then be configured to check.
2016-08-22 23516, 2016
Freso
But let's talk about this post-meeting or some other time.
2016-08-22 23521, 2016
zas
k
2016-08-22 23529, 2016
Freso
I think we got to a resolution on this point:
2016-08-22 23537, 2016
CatQuest
that way the old mailinglisters (hopefully) also will be involved lei kthey used to
2016-08-22 23544, 2016
Freso
1) Create /c/musicbrainz/devel and move tech. stuff there.
2016-08-22 23508, 2016
CatQuest
I volunteer to help!
2016-08-22 23517, 2016
CatQuest
or e i woudl i guess but probably i can't do it
2016-08-22 23526, 2016
Freso
2) See how /c/musicbrainz fares over the next few weeks and consider/evaluate then if we also want to make a users/editors subcat.
2016-08-22 23526, 2016
CatQuest
also probably i'll be buzy too :(
2016-08-22 23538, 2016
Freso
Anything I missed?
2016-08-22 23547, 2016
CatQuest
lgtm
2016-08-22 23513, 2016
Freso
Alright. It's a wrap then.
2016-08-22 23516, 2016
Freso
Thanks for your time!
2016-08-22 23519, 2016
Freso
</BANG>
2016-08-22 23524, 2016
CatQuest
wrap up!
2016-08-22 23536, 2016
Freso
zas: As I said, we basically just need to set up a mail account for it and then configure Discourse to use that. I'd use the already made discourse@meb, but it seems that one forwards to support@, and that would be a bit much. :)
2016-08-22 23546, 2016
Freso
Maybe community@meb?
2016-08-22 23505, 2016
CatQuest
👍
2016-08-22 23515, 2016
zas
+1
2016-08-22 23522, 2016
CatQuest
how would it know which user? email from?
2016-08-22 23527, 2016
reosarevok
Sounds reasonable
2016-08-22 23540, 2016
CatQuest
that means I could use my catquest....@gmail then
2016-08-22 23541, 2016
Freso
CatQuest: I think/guess so.
2016-08-22 23552, 2016
CatQuest
that's verry good
2016-08-22 23503, 2016
Freso
zas: Want to make a MBH ticket?
2016-08-22 23505, 2016
Freso
+me
2016-08-22 23522, 2016
zas
I can create it now
2016-08-22 23528, 2016
Freso
Okay. :)
2016-08-22 23551, 2016
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews
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zas
ruaok: community@meb exists as an alias on your account, and Freso is asking for an account for that, can we remove the alias or should we use another name ?
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Freso
Remove the alias. I don't think it's ever been posted anywhere.
2016-08-22 23527, 2016
Freso
I had forgotten all about it too. :p
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Freso
zas: PM or mail me the password for the account once you've set it up. (If you're able to enable POP3 access to it from the admin site too, that'd be perfect.)
2016-08-22 23525, 2016
Freso
I think I have pretty much set it all up on the Discourse set, except for the account password.
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travis-ci
metabrainz/picard#1435 (master - b0a70fe : Wieland Hoffmann): The build passed.
