noci, SothoTalker_: Does anyone know if it's being worked on? It's kind of painful
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SothoTalker_
it is known, but i don't know what the plans are
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Sophist-UK
samj1912: Its always nice to know that we have loads of interested people, but I do wonder if Stars are the best way for us to let users know what is happening to Picard.
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Sophist-UK
SotoTalker_: Is it just global load?
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Sophist-UK
SothoTalker_: Is it just global load?
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SothoTalker_
yeah
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Sophist-UK
Hmm - perhaps we should prioritise the user agents that produce the fewest calls.
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SothoTalker_
upping the limit :)
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antgel
Thanks!
2017-05-21 14145, 2017
Sophist-UK
SothoTalker_: Upping the limit (by providing more capacity) is the best solution, howeverin the mean time, down prioritising the biggest load will put the pain where it will do the least harm, and let other agents who are not causing the overload get their requests met.
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blup
oh hai, where can I find the picard 2 dev? (for mac 10.7 ostensibly)
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Sophist-UK
(This is similar to prioritising CPU in an o/s scheduling algorithm - the heaviest CPU load gets the lowest priority.)
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Mineo
blup, I think there are no pre-built packages for osx for the current development version
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SothoTalker_
Sophist-UK: the plan is to change the api to require a key
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Sophist-UK
SothoTalker_: Perhaps I am being dense, but how will an API key fix this problem?
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SothoTalker_
less users
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noci
people will have to make an effort
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noci
unfortunately I guess it will break all existing libraries
SothoTalker_, noci: Is less users a win? I guess if those users are some sort of capacity leech, making requests for no benefit, then eliminating them would be a win - but there would presumably also be better ways of chucking them off than requiring an API. Otherwise I am unclear how requiring an API and reducing the number of users is a win.
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SothoTalker_
Sophist-UK: i never said it's a win.
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Sophist-UK
True.
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Sophist-UK
API key: -1 from me.
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SothoTalker_
:-)
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ruaok
API keys would never be required for ws/2 access. If we require them, there will be a ws/3 API, which may be backward compatible....
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Sophist-UK
ruao: Now I am even less certain what the purpose of API key is.
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ruaok
for us to be able to shut out bad actors
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Freso
Leftmost: Hopefully? Are you here (a) Monday too? There's a session right next to the Sagrada Familia.
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ruaok
Freso: does that mean I have one more supporter for the "move the meeting to another time"? :)
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Freso
ruaok: Ha. Quesito and I were talking about doing just that 6 days ago. :)
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ruaok
let's do it. its a bad time.
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ruaok
I would suggest two hours earlier.
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Freso
👍
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Freso
Still Monday?
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Freso
How does 2 hours earlier work for USians?
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ruaok
yea, I think that is good.
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ruaok
cali time moves from noon to 10am.
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ruaok
bitmap would move from 2pm to noon, I think.
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Freso
That sounds like it's probably still fine.
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Freso
Would make it much easier on the Indians.
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ruaok
we have no regulars from cali. and I hope bitmap can do that.
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Freso
Put it up for vote tomorrow?
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ruaok
let's
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TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | Picard meeting (Tues, 18:00 UTC): Working document https://goo.gl/anENrc | MetaBrainz meeting agenda: reviews, move meeting time (Freso/ruaok), collection spam (Freso)
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Freso
Scheduled. :)
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SothoTalker_
i'd rather have it later than earlier :p
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ruaok
motion carried. two hours earlier. thanks for voting everyone!
