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      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] 14mwiencek opened pull request #2123 (03master…a-upd-release-event-checks): a_upd_release_event: check for changes before doing work https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
      • 2021-05-27 14720, 2021

      • nelgin
        yvanzo indexer_1 | 2021-05-27T00:37:29.330977256Z 2021-05-27 00:37:29,330: Solr responded with an error (HTTP 500): [Reason: this IndexWriter is closed]
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      • nelgin
        ?
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      • lucifer
        akshaaatt: cool, i'll review some of the open PRs on Monday and do a release then.
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      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] 14mwiencek opened pull request #2124 (03master…even-more-autocomplete2-improvements): Even more Autocomplete2 improvements https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
      • 2021-05-27 14724, 2021

      • akshaaatt
        @lucifer: Great!
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      • lucifer
        ruaok: so they want us to host the privacy policy under LB as well and a section on how we use Google data to it?
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      • ruaok
        seems so. i hate this sort of crap.
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      • lucifer
        😔
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      • ruaok
        we don't.
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      • CatQuest
        then wtf
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      • ruaok
        yeah.
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      • ruaok
        and their requirements are counter to our carefully thought out privacy policy concept
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      • CatQuest
        what do they want this for anyway?
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      • CatQuest
        I mean why are they demanding this
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      • ruaok
        and I get the feeling they are going to make a mess of our policies for... nothing.
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      • ruaok
        lucifer: I am thinking of making a privacy policy page that isn't linked from the LB pages, but that it states that we do not use user data and then links to the meb privacy policy for other bits. see if they buy it.
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      • lucifer
        ruaok: i feel that might not work since the first two points were highlighted in bold, they will probably demand that it be linked from the home page.
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      • ruaok feels the rage rising
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      • ruaok
        the small minded reviewers at youtube.
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      • lucifer
        to get the Youtube feature verified.
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      • CatQuest
        aah, for lb?
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      • lucifer
        right
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      • CatQuest
        ack
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      • CatQuest
        such pita bullshit
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      • jasondk
        Hi mentor ruaok quick question, which time zone are you in right now? I'm in PST (GMT-7)
      • 2021-05-27 14738, 2021

      • ruaok
        CEST. GMT+2.
      • 2021-05-27 14746, 2021

      • ruaok used to live in PST.
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      • ruaok
        where do you live?
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      • jasondk
        I'm living in California (in the bay area) right now. And you're in europe?
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      • ruaok
        yep, there are three of us here in Barcelona.
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      • ruaok
        I live in San Luis Obispo for over 26 years and have made countless trips to the bay area.
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      • ruaok
        I've got friends from alviso to oakland.
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      • ruaok
        alviso, AKA the armpit of the bay area.
      • 2021-05-27 14729, 2021

      • ruaok
        *lived
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      • jasondk
        oh cool, I'm from oakland! spain looks awesome its on my bucket list
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      • ruaok
        oak-town in the house! :)
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      • jasondk
        Well we have a 9 hour time difference :O For gsoc I'm going to try to get up a little earlier to catch you when you are active so we can be more synchronous
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      • ruaok
        I usually become sentient right around this time of day... also your "mornings" would be good for coordinating.
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      • ruaok
        I suspect your mornings will shift a but with this approach. :)
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      • jasondk
        I am usually in bed by now but I've been meaning to get up a little earlier anyways, like ~6-7 hours from now. you are still on by then usually right?
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      • ruaok
        yeah.
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      • ruaok
        lets see what our rhythm becomes, we'll work it out. alastairp & monkey are also in BCN and lucifer is in India. those two will also be good canidates for helping you.
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      • ruaok
        monkey especially when it comes to front end stuff
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      • jasondk
        Ok sounds good i will be flexible. and tomorrow maybe we can talk more about my project and my tasks for the next 2 weeks.
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      • ruaok
        sounds good!
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      • jasondk
        Thanks!
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      • param
        i am also around if needed :)
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      • ruaok
        lucifer: I want to add a link to the LB privacy page that shows which of our code modules someone should read to investigate our use of a users YT data. which module is best do you think?
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      • lucifer
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      • ruaok
        thx
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      • lucifer
        this one has most of the youtube code
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      • monkey
        ruaok: Also this is the one single method (currently) which we need auth for: https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • ruaok
        thx
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      • ruaok
        is that link future proof? I don't want to make it look like we're linking to a specific commit that may not be in production. can you please find a suitable link off master?
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      • ruaok uses the master one and omits the use of line numbers
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] 14mayhem opened pull request #1486 (03master…add-lb-privacy-policy-and-btw-fuck-youtube): Add an LB privacy policy https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
      • 2021-05-27 14734, 2021

      • ruaok
        reosarevok: ^^ english check please?
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      • lucifer
        ruaok: approved with one comment. nice, branch btw ;)
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      • lucifer
        *branch name
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      • ruaok
        heh
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      • ruaok comments
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      • reosarevok checks
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      • reosarevok
        That lowercase bold i is so confusing
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      • ruaok
        yeah. agreed.
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      • reosarevok
        Left one comment
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      • monkey
        Got some rephrasing on that PR coming up
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      • monkey
        Done
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      • ruaok
        > We only use the absolute minimum data required to play music through Youtube (authentication to your Youtube account), and do not use it for any other purpose.
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      • ruaok
        that is factually not correct.
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      • ruaok
        we use NO data.
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      • atj
        aren't the authentication details data?
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      • ruaok
        yes, but we do not USE them for anything but to log into YT.
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      • ruaok
        there is no use for our own purposes.
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      • atj
        Perhaps that sentence should be more explicit, as at the moment the reader is left wondering what "the absolute minimum data required to play music through Youtube (authentication to your Youtube account)" actually means.
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      • ruaok
        yes, I generally do not like monkey's suggestion. sorry.
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      • ruaok
        atj: if you care to improve my original wording, please do.
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      • atj
        Your data is used only to authenticate to your YouTube account and for no other purposes.
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      • ruaok
        i like that.
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      • ruaok
        is that in addition to what I've written or does it replace some part?
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      • atj
        Not sure :)
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      • atj
        Let me check your original wording
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      • atj
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      • atj
        Generally I struggle to elucidate what's in my head so not sure if it's an improvement :)
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      • ruaok
        zas: PING are you available at 16h today for a lemmy swap out?
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      • zas
        yup
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      • zas
        backups are made?
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      • ruaok
        param: zas: yvanzomeu bitmap reosarevok lucifer: please make sure that you have no personal data left on lemmy that you'll need.
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      • ruaok
        zas: checking now.
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      • ruaok
        we dont have a lot of important data on lemmy, but we're going to back up stuff in any case.
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      • ruaok
        note: I have no confirmation yet. will pass on as soon as I get confirmation from hetzner.
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      • zas
        ok
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      • ruaok
        zas: our failover IP is nominally off lemmy, but not attached to lemmy.
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      • ruaok
        do you see any issues that we may need to take into account?
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      • zas
        you mean 138.201.169.196 IP? I expect it to be preserved since that's a swap
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      • ruaok
        yes. agreed.
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      • zas
        but this can be an issue if not
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      • ruaok
        this is server upgrade option #4, where everything is supposed to be preserved.
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      • ruaok
        so, in theory....
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      • ruaok
        lucifer: https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server… is ready to merge if tests pass. can you please release that when tests pass?
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      • ruaok
        we're off to lunch and then afterwards I can resubmit the auth.
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      • lucifer
        yes sure
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      • yvanzomeu
        checked
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      • zas
        ruaok: confirmed for 16:00
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      • ruaok
        Great.
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] 14amCap1712 merged pull request #1486 (03master…add-lb-privacy-policy-and-btw-fuck-youtube): Add an LB privacy policy https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] release 03v-2021-05-27.0 has been published by 14github-actions[bot]: https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • lucifer
        ruaok: deployed privacy policy.
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      • lucifer
        alastairp: https://sentry.metabrainz.org/metabrainz/service-… , it seems it'll report to sentry whenever we 3
      • 2021-05-27 14734, 2021

      • lucifer
        stop a container
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      • ruaok
        Thanks!
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      • lucifer
        ruaok: small PR to reduce sentry noise https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • lucifer
        alastairp: addressed comments on https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server… . should i merge?
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      • alastairp
        lucifer: yeah, that's right. `finish` is called any time a service shuts down, and we report to sentry in finish
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      • alastairp
        maybe we'll start identifying which status codes mean which, and we can skip reporting in certain cases
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      • lucifer
        yeah, that would be nice. because a stop is usually going to be followed by a start when updating and its easy to get confused whether its from a real error.
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      • ruaok
        zas: the new server will be called "kiss"
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      • lucifer
        where are we moving lb to during upgrade? boingo or another server.
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      • ruaok
        boingo.
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      • ruaok
        I'm doing the docker server configs now.
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      • lucifer
        nice
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: can you start redis beforehand? I want to know ahead of time the volume location to load the dump file into
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      • ruaok
        I will in just a sec
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: pushed updates to that pr
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      • reosarevok hasn't used lemmy, so :) np for me
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      • ruaok
        lemmy is shutting down.
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      • alastairp plays taps
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      • ruaok
        lemmy is down, a few seconds late.
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      • alastairp
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      • monkey