Ohh so does that mean we can't use any JAVA library for metadata tagging ??
akshaaatt
Not as per my previous encounter with it yellowhatpro
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asubedy[m]
Hello everyone, I am Aaditya an undergraduate student. I found the MusicBrainz-server project interesting and want to know more about it and contribute on it.
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akshaaatt
Hi asubedy! I've noticed you helping me with the mb revamp project. If you need some help with the mb server setup, you can ask here. Also, bitmap, yvanzo and reosarevok are the active maintainers and leads for the mb server, so they can probably help you with any queries you might have. Welcome!
mayhem
mooooooooooin!
our DocSprint week has arrived!
I'm both trepidacious and mildly excited about this -- I think I will sleep better after this week.
jump on in. I think you probably have a good sense for what to add to the list of things that have not been documented enough. :)
akshaaatt
Haha yaass!
mayhem we seem to have some project documentation on readthedocs but acousticbrainz, musicbrainz don't seem to have them on readthedocs. Any reason for this?
mayhem
I'm guessing because those teams have not decided to use it. MB has the Wiki it uses for documentation. AB just hasn't gotten the love it needs.
alastairp
mostly because musicbrainz predates readthedocs by decades
Thanks for the share alastairp! We can definitely improve the acousticbrainz repo on GitHub.
Currently I am not sure whether we can access the recently added cover arts without making a database query but bitmap might know more about this asubedy
Also mayhem, bookbrainz has their own organization on GitHub which is separate from metabrainz. Any history behind it?
asubedy
Oh ok, I will wait for bitmap's reply then 😄
alastairp
lucifer: hi, let me know when you're around and we can spend some time on the planning doc for pythonbrainzes
mayhem
Yes, it was originally a community project, before we brought it in as one of our own. One of the conflict points with the previous team was how GitHub should be organized.
alastairp
I'll be here all day tomorrow, but can spend an hour or so today helping to get an outline going
akshaaatt
Oh, sounds interesting!
mayhem
And not all of that has been resolved yet. Might be a good thing for monkey to do this week.
akshaaatt
Has monkey returned yet btw?
CatQuest
ha. I had a"remind people" about the docunary week
reminder in calendar
i see it won't be needed
!m mayhem
BrainzBot
You're doing good work, mayhem!
mayhem
akshaaatt: no sign yet
akshaaatt
Sigh, I miss him!
lucifer
alastairp: Hi! sounds good. I am around now.
CatQuest
akshaaatt: same
i'd very much like to move bookbrainz documentation to metabrainz wiki
give it it's own mainspace?
alastairp
lucifer: I started writing some notes in the doc. I'm not sure if we should focus on detail or breadth first - perhaps breadth first?
CatQuest
thne it can be trasncluded to the site and have some formatting bells and wistles added
lucifer
alastairp: sure breadth sounds good.
also we should discuss how to organize docs. github/rtd/guidelines repo etc.
Hi everyone! I am indeed back (if a bit jetlagged)
lucifer
right so let's finalize that?
hi monkey!
akshaaatt
lucifer a little off the track but I was wondering if we could have the `most listened songs` on lb this week/month. A section like the one we have for Recent listens
Welcome monkey!💯
lucifer
akshaaatt: you mean sitewide top artists/recordings/releases for week/month etc?
akshaaatt
Yes!
lucifer
we have those apis already. ui is pending.
akshaaatt
Wonderful! Let me know if I could help set it up
yyoung[m]
alastairp: Is it possible to delete AcousticBrainz submissions? I tagged my files wrong and now it's like a mess.
CatQuest
heeey yyoung[m] long time no siege!
yyoung[m]
CatQuest: Hey!
akshaaatt
Also lucifer, Feed seems to be broken on prod in lb, if that wasn't known already
CatQuest
ok so. where do i write about how to add instruments
lucifer
akshaaatt: sure i have an unfinished branch, i don't remember where but was stuck at something i'll rebase and share it with you.
akshaaatt
Thanks!
yyoung[m]
CatQuest: I've been keeping an eye on MB, but haven't got much time to work on it during the semester, now it's winter vacation :)
lucifer
i'll look into the feed issue
CatQuest
:D we're ust out of chrismas vacation, winter vacation is nextmonth
akshaaatt
Thanks lucifer!
CatQuest
although that *would* explain the sudden influx of indians today 🤔
wait no, yy is chinese
sudden influx of indians= still a mystery
akshaaatt
Indians are everywhere CatQuest 😂👌
CatQuest
:DDD
even in me, since we're indo-european :D (probably)
akshaaatt
Wonderful!
CatQuest
yes
mera nam CatQuest hi
hi/he
i forget
i should leanr how to say that in other indian langs as well
akshaaatt
Wow. Pro at everything!
alastairp
yyoung[m]: no, we didn't add the ability to delete. the idea was that if there were duplicate submissions then we can identify that one is wrong. Our similarity index should be able to help with that
yyoung[m]
alastairp: OK, but with only 2 submissions (1 incorrect, 1 correct) it can't identify the correct one, right?
alastairp
that's right. 3 is the minimum to be able to identify bad items
don't worry - I'm positive that you're not the first person to submit bad items to AB
So, it's all free-with-ads in the US *but* still paid only elsewhere
Not sure if we should automatically select *both* types...
yyoung[m]
alastairp: One more question, Picard doesn't seem to allow duplicate submissions, how does that work? I didn't find an option to fill my own API key, so is it using a universal key?
alastairp
yyoung[m]: what do you mean duplicate submissions in picard?
i don't really understand the diff betwehen "strema for free and "streaming page" tbh
reosarevok
Well, "streaming page" is supposed to not be free :)
(generally, to require a subscription)
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CatQuest
well I mean
dosnt most things require this? the only "free streaming" i cna see is bandcamp
i don't actually consider "yo ucna "strema for free" (with ads/only in this country/if you sign up/with acreditcard/etc) to be "free streaming"
reosarevok
Well, most people would consider "free with ads" free :)
I mean, YouTube is also free with ads and almost everybody considers that free AFAICT :)
CatQuest
visual ads, sure
audible ones. fuck no
uh
i forget that YT has ads becase i block thse
alastairp
lucifer: how does that list look to you now? is that enough for you to start with today? anything else you want to discuss?
yyoung[m]
alastairp: Using the same file to submit again
It seems after submitting the wrong information, I can't use submit Picard to submit the right ones. I can use acousticbrainz-gui, but submitting multiple times only result in a single submission entry
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reosarevok
Do we have any up-to-date "how to get started contributing to MeB" page?
asubedy: you should try to configure your client so that it doesnt post links to text but posts all the lines
if it's code or whatnot use a pastebucket liek paste.ee
github has aapste bucket too
alastairp
yyoung[m]: acousticbrainz-gui has a config file which won't submit the same exact file page more than once. I don't know if picard has a similar mechanism
reosarevok
yvanzo, bitmap: we should think about what we want to do re: MB docs during the docsprint
CatQuest is documenting instrument work
But we should figure out what is missing / should be improved elsewhere :)
mayhem
woah, we got a monkey!
asubedy
CatQuest: Oh alright I quoted my message, I guess that posted a link to the message.
CatQuest
asubedy: no problem. irc is very.. not fancy. matrix or whatver bridge you're using has many more features :)