#metabrainz

what a bunch of misfits we are. <3

And that wraps up the meeting.

reosarevok: it's your birthright to have a "bridge"

monkey: :)

Thank you all for your time! Take care of yourselves! (Remember to start on your allergy meds if you need to.)

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Thanks everyone!

Thank you!

Thank you!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30990697 when does our jira license expire? :/

[musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok opened pull request #2485 (03master…MBS-12305): MBS-12305: Allow editing/translating instrument (root) rel attribute https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

alastairp: not so much license, but standalone installs are end-of-life.

and I think that is soonish, like this year. but I'm always wrong, so...

yeah, so if we want to upgrade it's cloud-only?

we should probably migrate off jira to something else?

alastairp: "The cloud is just other people’s computers."

alastairp: I believe so.

lucifer: I think we should consider that.

Jeez, not another ticket tracker migration

the landscape for issue trackers has changed a lot since we moved to jira.

reosarevok: that just shows how long you've been around at MeB for

oh lol. i just remembered seeing remanants of that in mbh tickets

Yes, and we lost all data from there, which is fun

All dead links

uh :(. that's definitely a thing we need to take care of this time then if we choose to migrate to something else.

And I've actually fixed 10+ year old tickets, so the history is certainly important

Unless the competition is *amazing*... I'd certainly stick with jira as long as possible. We also have working workflows etc

But I understand at some point it might not be doable

on another project that I just finished archiving, I just `wget --mirror`d the entire site and put it up on nginx

yeah makes sense

If we end up migrating, ideally we'd find a way to copy everything, including comments

Not sure how doable that is but

monkey: oh if you are still around, chinmay had some UI related ques just before the meeting.

If it's too complicated, GitHub issues might be an easy answer for the migration. Unless I'm missing some important functionalities. There seem to be some migration scripts available online

Let me look

oh Xianyi's question too is frontend ui related.

chinmay: For your question 1, I'd say Followers + Following only. I don't know how worried we need to be with spamming, but the search box seems like we're just asking for it. But that's just my opinion, not sure what everybody else thinks

Question 2: Yes, it's good to have that visual confirmation

Question 3: I don't think so no. If we're talking about feed events anyway, those are all personal and only viewable by that user

outsidecontext: Hi, I see you're online, so: Should I include my personal details (name etc.) in actual GSoC application or just the draft posted on the forum (with info about me paragraphs stripped)? I did the second one but I'm just asking to be 100% sure I won't lose to formalities hah.. Also sorry if you've anwsered this question previously but I had to take a few days off.

Mockups look good, I'd also be interested in seeing what the recommend to a user modal would look like based on the above :)

alastairp: We have until February 2024, see OTHER-373

OTHER-373: Migrate Tickets from Jira Server https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/OTHER-373

yvanzo: thanks

oh, but here I am thinking that 2024 is like 5 years in the future

That's also end of support only, so we could technically continue using it, but I assume some terrible exploit will be found

skelly37: i think its upto. iirc i didn't include personal details in my proposal.

*upto you

bitmap: is there any good way to add a small test for https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

lucifer: okay, good to hear it, thanks

especially if we want to put it out today having a test would be good for peace of mind :)

monkey: Thanks for clarifying all of them :)

skelly37: to be clear, in my proposal when i participated 2 years ago but can say the same for now :D

lucifer, yes, I don't know whether it's OK to update to the FontAwesome 6, because it may cause some trouble

monkey: again for you ^ :)

also thanks for answering the queries!

Gonna take it easy then :)

skelly37: you don't have to include any personal information in your proposal on the forums

Guys, I'm having a difficult time with the GSoC timeline for my draft proposal :(

And may be all the code related to the icron need to change...

Xianyi: You can try updating it in your local copy, and see if there are any issues. I'm sure there's a migration guide to follow

alastairp: i think they were asking about final proposal PDF.

any information that's required on the actual gsoc page will only be seen by this year's mentors

Seem like it Xianyi : https://fontawesome.com/docs/web/setup/upgrade/

alastairp: I'm not talking about forums. I've already sent final PDF to google. My proposal on the forums was already approved by everyone :)

skelly37: right, sorry - I guess eventually we may need to contact you. but if you don't want to share some specific information such as name or email then I see no reason why you can't omit it and use just a nick

alastairp: That's not a problem, my name and email are public on my github in case they're needed.

alastairp: we'll see the email in mentor dashboard anyway (the mail used to apply to gsoc).

monkey, Thank you! I already tried it(y)  Just not sure it's OK for the community to change the Package to another version. I will keep working on it!:]

=D

monkey: oh i just logged in to mentor dashboard and see there are a few BB proposals but iirc only 1 on forums. if those students are in touch, may want to ask them to submit on forums as well.

reosarevok: I'll see if it's feasible. it'll be kind of weird since it's testing if the page loads under x amount of time

skelly37: what lucifer and alastairp said

Also sorry for not answering earlier. I'm always lurking here and eventually will read everything mentioning me, but it might to able me some time to answer :)

alastairp: the BB reviews project is intended to be 175 or 350 hours?

relax, no problem :)

lucifer: yeah, i need to discuss that with monkey

ah cool 👍, i saw Ansh marked it as medium on SoC site whereas my impression was its a large one so wanted to confirm.

bitmap: I was more thinking "testing that it uses the right kind of diff and that the diff works as expected"

Rather than speed as such

By definition it should be faster :)

well, the diff itself should be identical

or do we not have any annotation diff tests at all?

Well, I was thinking you could have a test of 900 chars and one of 1001 (using \s) and see they work

Not so much directly about annotations

But dunno :)

yvanzo: any chance you could review https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve... ? That's basically a regression we should fix because it's *so* slow rn

So I was hoping to release it as part of today's (or I guess tomorrow's) prod release

alastairp: I've proposed a medium-sized project, but I plan to work for 30 hours/week. If you both feel the project should be changed to a large-sized project, please let me know. I'll rework my timelines.

reosarevok: do you think we should change annotation diffing to use \s+ then?

This was a different issue (as in, this will change diff in very long \s+ strings so we should test those)

But I dunno about changing annotation

How well does that work with things like those damned emoji flags?

probably treats them each as one word

assuming they have spaces around them

Then it might not be a bad idea

bitmap, yvanzo: given we have a fair amount of smaller bug fixes and whatnot, wonder if it would make sense to postpone one week, merge these to beta this week, release next week

Since the list of merged things is currently small

I would prefer to keep the extra week for the schema change release if you don't mind

I mean, I'd have no issues at all with releasing these next week, and then having no more releases until the schema change

Count the weeks we have

5, no?

Oh if you mean skipping a release... why not.

I did :)

So, put any smaller bugfixes we have into beta this week, release all the bug fixes next week, then just concentrate on schema change

That seems smoother than bypassing beta.

Yeah, that was my thinking

And it gives us a bit more stress free time to test schema changes

bitmap: what are your thoughts about it? ^

agreed, that sounds perfect

Sweet

There are three not yet approved recent bugfixes: https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve... and https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve... (which would be neat, but not urgent)

And https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve... (which we really should put out this time anyway)

Oh, I see yvanzo approved that last one

Awesome

bitmap: if you have a bit of time to check the other two, I can put all of these out tonight and then we hopefully do only schema change from then on

(and any beta fixes, but)

I'm not on holiday next Monday so I'm happy to release even if meeting is off and whatnot

Awesome

monkey: thanks for letting me know how the new LB frontend is gonna be like. Also, thanks for the advice, I plan to proceed just like that (making the context menu first and then the drag and drop feature, feel free to check the timeline in the proposal :) ). Speaking of timeline, whenever you go by my proposal, please feel free to scrutinize the proposed timeline, since I have taken into account possible discussions on UI/UX or code

reviews that can take place during SoC, based on my experience in previous PRs. If you feel like I should scooch in more time or less, do let me know. Thanks again :D

[musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok merged pull request #2485 (03master…MBS-12305): MBS-12305: Allow editing/translating instrument (root) rel attribute https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

[musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok merged pull request #2467 (03master…MBS-12279): MBS-12279 / MBS-12283 / MBS-12284: Drop more manual deletion options and fix related issues https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

[musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok merged pull request #2482 (03master…MBS-12303): MBS-12303: Display non-diff annotation data over all columns https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

[musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok merged pull request #2483 (03master…MBS-12304): MBS-12304: Only run guess feat on nonempty names https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

[musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok merged pull request #2481 (03master…MBS-12280): MBS-12280 (I): Add target _blank to edit form links https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

bitmap: oh, btw, did you see my comments on https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve... ?

oh, yeah, I forgot about them

I can change it to options?.timezone, I think you're right about that

didn't check FormRowPartialDate though

[musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok merged pull request #2479 (03master…MBS-12298): MBS-12298: Update to new triplejunearthed domain https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...