#metabrainz

zas: sounds good, lets try to take at it look today. Does it support IPv6?

a start on what?

fine tuning our ability to hit the delete button?

On maybe figuring out where the crazy spam is coming from :D

I mean, ideally we'd find the origin and be "hey, please take us down from there"

have fun with that. :)

mayhem: also, is there a planed state of the brainzes presentation this year too?

(bitmap and I were not sure whether to work on slides or not because there's nothing in the agenda)

yes, its going to be very flat.

*planned, lol

yes, I think every team should do a "state of" presentation. slides are not cruicial.

Testing something…

[musicbrainz-server] 14yvanzo opened pull request #2676 (03beta…redux420): Bump Redux version to 4.2.0 https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

Got an interesting LB error message:

> Mapped attribute "Recording.artist_credit" does not apply to any of the root entities in this query, e.g. mapped class Release->release. Please specify the full path from one of the root entities to the target attribute.

Loading this page: https://listenbrainz.org/player/release/1249b0d...

bitmap, yvanzo: looking at that redux PR, do I understand we only use it for the languages in work forms?

If so, I assume that can actually be converted to react now and use dispatches like we do with alias and genre and we won't need redux anymore?

I think so. that was before react had useReducer iirc

but updating the dep is fine for now

Sure, not against that in any way :)

Just nice that we can hopefully soon get rid of a dep

(do we have any checks to see if there's any deps we're not using at all anymore)

monkey: uh, will fix.

Thanks lucifer. Any idea what it is?

reosarevok: so another dep to check for unused deps? :)

haha

most probably broke due to a change by me. sqlalchemy upgrade not done at some place in code.

1 hour ago:

(I know we know that Spotify does this but interesting to see their comms as well)

moin all BCN peeps in the office or soon to be in the office. We're going to have sandwiches for lunch:

Look at what appeals to you and then on the second sheet, enter your name, you first, second and third choice for sandwiches.

they dont always have all the options available, so its best to be prepared for backup options.

yum

Thanks mayhem

np

hi lucifer

hi

should we set up test.lb database?

(unless you've already done it?)

nope haven't done it. sure lets do it

how about we just start up another timescale, and use that for both user+listens db?

oh that sounds good to me.

i see 2.8.1-pg14 is the latest image by TS. lets use that.

is mostly reusable except the `SERVICE_5432_NAME`, we need a new name so that it doesn't clash with prod.

Testing something again…

lucifer: ah, that's a shame that the service name isn't based on $1

yeah, indeed.

should we modify this and then also update LB?

maybe later because we'll need to restart prod db for that.

oh yeah, we need to restart the db too, I forgot that

for now, let's copy this function and start up a test db.

so, yeah, that

on it

lucifer: if we wanted to do incoming listens then we'd need a separate rmq channel, right?

yes and we already have it iirc.

oh great (i just saw that there was no listen writer for test)

ah. i probably stopped it at some point for testing and never started it again.

it's not in the startup script, I mean

uh ok, yeah we never put it there for some reason. probably because test was added to the script when we wanted to test websockets stuff and that needed a ts writer.

yeah, right

so yeah, makes sense to get everything set up nicely

alastairp: wiki.metabrainz.org now redirects to wiki.musicbrainz.org, confirm it works for you

alastairp: Can we also have test.cb with a separate database ?

ansh: absolutely!

thank you zas!

alastairp: need any help on setting up the db?

I was just talking to atj to decide on some best practises in the script. almost finished

ah cool

[musicbrainz-server] 14yvanzo merged pull request #2676 (03master…redux420): Bump Redux version to 4.2.0 https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

Other people getting this on the wiki?

(the broken logo)

aerozol: for years and years and years ;)

Hah! Have I just not noticed??

looking fine here. maybe a zoom issue?

lucifer: add-lb-test-db branch on docker-server-configs. function name needs to be updated, and I noticed that we should fix up our use of PORTS_LIST in the timescale functions

maybe a problem with hidpi?

alastairp: want to fix the port issue first or let's use this script?

lucifer: let's clean up the ports

sorry, I'd better write some state-of slides before we start :)

sure, i too just did that :). i can take of the db stuff meanwhile.

thx

monkey: https://test.listenbrainz.org/player/release/12...

lucifer: wow we've done a lot this year

seriously

well done everyone

indeed! and i probably forgot many things, especially the smaller ones.

also, feel free to add/remove/suggest changes to the LB state presentation.

[brainzutils-python] 14amCap1712 opened pull request #97 (03master…fix-release-artist-credit-load): Fix loading artist incs for releases https://github.com/metabrainz/brainzutils-pytho...

[listenbrainz-server] 14amCap1712 opened pull request #2193 (03master…fix-sqlalchemy-issue): Update BU to v2.7.1 https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-serv...

lucifer: nice !

monkey: hi! also, if you have time please look at the LB state presentation (invite in email) and feel free to make modifications as needed.

(i tried to include as much i remembered but i may have missed stuff especially about the frontend side)

Stream is live: https://youtu.be/fYHUhvM8vkA

Also, for anyone who are going to use presentations/powerpoints, I would ask if you could join the Zoom meeting when you do and also share your screen/presentation there. :)

lucifer: hello? :) zoom is live

lucifer: join the zoom meeting, we're starting

Less goo MetaBrainz Summit :D

hi! sorry. had gone for some tea. joining in 2 mins.

Summit! Good to see some faces!

ansh: hi! you're welcome to join our zoom call for the summit if you are free today

Pratha-Fish: you too!

alastairp: I'd love to :)

Pratha-Fish: you've already been named twice in the opening talk. well done!

epic 😁

alastairp: How do I join the meet?

there should be a link at the top of that page

Ooh I see. The hyperlinks were actually for the meet

Oh, I had no idea we were doing chat here

not many of us in the office are also in zoom, so here is much better

I asked (based on mayhem's presentation) how would the BookBrainz side of CritiqueBrainz work if it got folded into ListenBrainz as mentioned as a possibility

reosarevok: "Chat during the summit will be in the #metabrainz IRC channel (please refrain from using Zoom chat and YouTube chat will be disabled)." from https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Summit/22 :)

Freso: sorry, didn't read the whole long thing :D

Ok

and I said

we'll have a CB session this weekend. a nominal plan would be to keep CB as the database and interact with it only from other sites (MB/LB/BB)

but that's very much depending on us actually sitting down and talking about how to do it

I love this ISRC prospect!

lucifer: LB presentation looks great

Im in :)

monkey: 👍

If I understand this correctly, CAA is archival information, but LB cover art is more presentation. Is there more a need for retrieving cover art of presentation quality, perhaps from other sources such as fanart?

rdswift_: CAA also includes smaller sizes, which we use

but do you also mean for example scans that are more tightly cropped?

Rob has been working on image collages, served by LB. Because it gets generated there I believe it passes through the cache… or something

Right, but the scans are not necessarly presentation quality.

Sorry I think I misunderstood hah

The obvious source for art would be Spotify I guess, if we’re getting our plays mainly from there (quality aside)

rdswift_, aerozol: that sounds like there's at most a need to indicate things better if they're not very good cover art :)

I don't think it means we should use some other source (using the CAA makes people more likely to improve the CAA) unless it becomes legally so messy that we can't I guess