mayhem: Missed you message sorry! Is this about the Explore ticket? Haven’t dug in yet, should be able to do so soon
2023-03-01 06019, 2023
aerozol
yvanzo: just read your message about not overloading with visuals, and that the ‘main author’ should be involved (nice of you to give them a break from pings!)
2023-03-01 06041, 2023
aerozol
The reason I’m interested in this is because I find the rollover with a link to pending edits particularly useful - not just in the context of the relationships editor. So if we get this right I would love to see it added elsewhere in the site too. I’m certain other users who do a lot of editing will agree.
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aerozol
I’m going to continue to spit all of my ideas into the ticket, fully conscious that they might not be a good fit/too cluttered, and be discarded 👍
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aerozol
monkey: yvanzo: I’m happy for someone to assign themselves MBS-12866/BB-625 and implement mockup #8. The connection graphic should be easy to change if someone thinks of a better way to do it in the future.
as for images, I took the ones you put up, except the ones that were not included in your mock-up. Can you please provide a set of images for me to use?
2023-03-01 06050, 2023
mayhem
as for the font, we currently do no load roboto black. we would need to load another font in order to make this happen. is that warranted? monkey ?
2023-03-01 06022, 2023
mayhem
then, we tried to export the textures from the figma and use those, but they simply didn't work.
2023-03-01 06045, 2023
mayhem
this is as close as we could get, with what we could scrape out of the figma.
2023-03-01 06025, 2023
mayhem
if you want the filters tweaked, tell us, in english what they are so that we can attempt to match them. but copying from figma and hoping it would work, doesn;t/
2023-03-01 06026, 2023
zas
morning
2023-03-01 06023, 2023
reosarevok
bitmap: at some point when you have some time, can you see if you have any ideas on a good way to deal with the issue with https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/… and the new rel editor I mention on my last comment there?
2023-03-01 06025, 2023
zas
on trille, the container brainzbot-plugins-prod keeps restarting (after error)
2023-03-01 06043, 2023
reosarevok
(basically, dates are different when stored in the DB and when user-entered, so the state dates are messy)
is it possible to move at least one of those to another server (with more free disk space)?
2023-03-01 06024, 2023
aerozol
mayhem: Moin! What do you mean the thing is coded and done?
2023-03-01 06052, 2023
mayhem
moin. its done. and deployed to test. it could be merged and deployed into production in seconds.
2023-03-01 06055, 2023
aerozol
I’ll spend some time on some interesting images if you’re cool with them being ‘representative’ of the features themselves (will have to be tomorrow)
2023-03-01 06015, 2023
aerozol
Done, minus my feedback ;)
2023-03-01 06016, 2023
mayhem
I'm happy to put whatever images you supply in there. easier for me.
2023-03-01 06027, 2023
aerozol
Great, I’ll try come up with something cool
2023-03-01 06035, 2023
aerozol
Did you have a look at the responsive layout?
2023-03-01 06045, 2023
aerozol
And the overlay svg (but not sure that will work)
2023-03-01 06054, 2023
mayhem
not yet, just waking up still. just got coffee.
2023-03-01 06052, 2023
mayhem
ok, I see your responsive design, I'll make that happen.
2023-03-01 06053, 2023
aerozol
That’s good, because I’m falling asleep! If you can get back to me in the next 8 hours that would be efficient, but even that’s only a guideline
2023-03-01 06012, 2023
mayhem
in the future, we should always specify how something needs to be responsive.
2023-03-01 06019, 2023
mayhem
no rush!
2023-03-01 06020, 2023
aerozol
Also if something’s a faff let me know and I can tweak the design
2023-03-01 06045, 2023
mayhem
radial gradients don't work -- please redesign the effect with a linear gradient.
2023-03-01 06026, 2023
mayhem
gah.
2023-03-01 06002, 2023
mayhem
I just now noticed that we're not respecting aspect ratios of the images in your responsive design. was that on purpose?
2023-03-01 06027, 2023
aerozol
I have a list of mockups to do and mocking each one up responsive takes a lot of time - especially when the design could change before it gets implemented. Going forward if you let me know you’re implementing something for real real I’ll get onto make a proper spec document (I really need to get round to doing this for the gsoc Fresh Releases ahh)
2023-03-01 06043, 2023
aerozol
I left a comment for that, the stretching is just my dirty mockup :)
2023-03-01 06018, 2023
mayhem
I dont think the responsiveness needs to actually be mocked up. I think a description of what you'd like would be sufficient.
2023-03-01 06043, 2023
mayhem
but I have an idea what you have in mind, so I can work on that today.
2023-03-01 06043, 2023
aerozol
Comment re images: “BG images shouldn’t actually be stretched in anyway in prod. Make them 100% width, let them move/crop vertically?” (but there might be a better of way of doing it that looks nice)
2023-03-01 06001, 2023
mayhem
ok, can do.
2023-03-01 06011, 2023
aerozol
I tend to have to mock it up for myself anyway. And I don’t trust devs to follow notes haha. Actually, I do trust MeB devs to. But I probably wouldn’t go that far with gsoc students, sorry gsoc students!
2023-03-01 06055, 2023
aerozol
Great work on Explore in any case! I’m excited!
2023-03-01 06048, 2023
mayhem
thanks, monkey and I are finally starting the redesign...
2023-03-01 06019, 2023
aerozol
I’m excited and also panicked about the things I still need to do! Ran out of time to sort all the extra settings pages, etc, today again, sorry monkey
2023-03-01 06051, 2023
monkey
No worries aerozol, we don't want you to be stressed out! I raised those points up in advance to give you time to figure them out, they don't need to be ready by Friday and we can sort some of the questions together
2023-03-01 06011, 2023
aerozol
Thanks monkey, I will sleep easy. Another week of family visits this week it turns out. The horror
2023-03-01 06015, 2023
monkey
Hah :D
2023-03-01 06029, 2023
monkey
Feverish dreams of family mockups
2023-03-01 06041, 2023
reosarevok
"Ok, totally drop cousin Mark. He's just not needed"
https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/9911133 do you see any reason why it would be a bad idea to have an info icon by the header there that sends the user to the documentation page for the edit type?
2023-03-01 06043, 2023
reosarevok
So like "Edit #9911133 - Remove disc ID (pre‐NGS) (?)"
2023-03-01 06021, 2023
reosarevok
With (?) leading to the docs for "Remove disc ID (pre‐NGS)" (I guess as a link?)
2023-03-01 06056, 2023
aerozol
Hmm, that sounds helpful. The only thing I can think of is trying to avoid clutter and too many icons. If we want to implement a lot of this kind of thing perhaps we should stick to the top right for links to help and docs, as we decided in: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-12935
2023-03-01 06056, 2023
BrainzBot
MBS-12935: Beta: Type's documentation is no longer accessible from relationship editor
2023-03-01 06000, 2023
reosarevok
So on the top right corner of the edit header?
2023-03-01 06030, 2023
aerozol
Yes. I think in this individual case that might not be as clear as next to the text, but thinking of the big picture I think it could be a good idea
Maybe a bit lighter? And maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but is it stretched very slightly in LB (wider)
2023-03-01 06050, 2023
aerozol
Yes, I think so, again maybe a bit lighter? btw I have occasionally thought about eventually replacing those squares with something like this too!
2023-03-01 06057, 2023
reosarevok
It looks round to me, but what do I know :D
2023-03-01 06006, 2023
reosarevok
There's a reason I'm not a designer :p
2023-03-01 06012, 2023
reosarevok
FWIW, I think most MB icons are just plundered from different free-use places and sets, which probably explains why they bother you in their not-going-togetherness :p
2023-03-01 06022, 2023
aerozol
I had to check… it’s square
2023-03-01 06035, 2023
reosarevok
I mean the "stretched" one
2023-03-01 06050, 2023
reosarevok
I guess as a medium-term goal, we should maybe aim to replace all MB icons with our own set of consistent/ish ones
2023-03-01 06008, 2023
aerozol
Haha yeah that’s the one I mean, the LB one’s not stretched, just a bit of an illusion because of the ?
2023-03-01 06021, 2023
aerozol
You can COUNT on us replacing the icons at some point TM
2023-03-01 06053, 2023
reosarevok
So I guess when adding new icons / replacing them now we should have a Clear Plan TM on how they fit together
2023-03-01 06020, 2023
reosarevok
But you have enough to do as it is now, so maybe the putting together the Clear Plan TM is not a priority, lol
2023-03-01 06036, 2023
reosarevok
(I guess ideally we'd share icons between MeB sites as much as possible too?)
2023-03-01 06023, 2023
aerozol
100%, I’ve been keeping that in mind for the redesigns in particular. ListenBrainz will have a bit of a head start there
2023-03-01 06039, 2023
reosarevok
Any LB icons we should be using already?
2023-03-01 06047, 2023
reosarevok
(aside from this question mark)
2023-03-01 06015, 2023
atj
Most of the icons seem to be from the Famfamfam Silk icon set
2023-03-01 06013, 2023
aerozol
I think it’s better if I tackle it all at once, I can’t think of the icons off the top of my head… replacing icons is something I might even manage someday with my special github skillz
2023-03-01 06019, 2023
aerozol
In my mockups I use the bootstrap icon set, or modified versions, which are quite nice
2023-03-01 06058, 2023
aerozol
But it would be good to properly think of if we want ‘flat’ icons everywhere, or what, and then make a shared library that all the devs can easily grab from
2023-03-01 06018, 2023
reosarevok
Yeah
2023-03-01 06047, 2023
aerozol
I was going to make a ticket but there’s too many other icon tickets to sift through and connect. This will definitely come up again though, I’ll do it then
2023-03-01 06018, 2023
atj
I think the icons should be monochrome and flat, the colours are quite distracting
2023-03-01 06024, 2023
reosarevok imagines aerozol having a wall board of icons linked with string like in the conspiracy theory movies
2023-03-01 06046, 2023
aerozol
atj: I too quite like the flat ones
2023-03-01 06053, 2023
atj
it also means you can add colour to icons when you want to draw the users attention to something specific
2023-03-01 06006, 2023
aerozol
reosarevok: that would actually be really helpful!
Also, this is what the inside of my brain actually looks like. And why I struggle to just do a nice icon or button or something without going off the deep end https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0CQsnNt…
reosarevok: Just to the left of ‘my vote’ could be consistent with the other pages. Short term it feels like a weird choice, but it would benefit from some space away from the text. I probably need to sleep on it, or you can put it in and then we’ll quickly see if it’s stupid there…
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reosarevok
Ok, I'll try and then you can scream if you hate it :)
2023-03-01 06025, 2023
aerozol
Sounds good! Good night all
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kellnerd
Hi bitmap, while there are no bug reports for the latest MBS release yet, I haven't been that lucky:
2023-03-01 06050, 2023
kellnerd
I'm afraid I need your help again with a little relationship editor userscript regression...
2023-03-01 06014, 2023
kellnerd
Batch creating relationships with the new rel editor was supposedly working per my checklist, but today I've received a report that it no longer works.
2023-03-01 06050, 2023
kellnerd
It's not the most used feature of my userscripts, so I could have been broken for a while already.
Unfortunately there is no error message in the console, only a useless report will be sent to sentry.
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mayhem
akshaaatt: bitmap lucifer monkey outsidecontext reosarevok zas : please log into the summer of code web page and follow these instructions "If a person was a Mentor or Org Admin for your org in 2022 then they just need to log in to g.co/gsoc and click on the 2023 bar which should now show them the 2023 Program Rules and Org Member agreement that they need to read and agree to. Once they have done that they will appear in the Org Admin's
2023-03-01 06045, 2023
mayhem
dropdown of folks to add to the 2023 program."
2023-03-01 06059, 2023
mayhem
if something is a miss, please let me know.
2023-03-01 06028, 2023
zas
mayhem: done
2023-03-01 06047, 2023
zas
do we have any docs about wiki setup? I find nothing in syswiki.
