#metabrainz

jasje: Was just following up our meeting to-do list, turns out there are already links to Figma, in the design-system, but I liked that you included logos etc. Do you want to link me your figma that had all that stuff, and I’ll incorporate it into the linked ones?

The links are under ‘Quick Links’ here: https://github.com/metabrainz/design-system

aerozol: i actually took time out to order everything in that figma https://www.figma.com/file/tFLTQiq7QlA1oGRTJVtX...

I was thinking of keeping finalized designs of every page in this figma

right now the profile page is marked as beta because thta was just me

but there we already have design of yim

we could port feed designs

Jasje: That’s excellent, that’s pretty much what we’re aiming for with the MB and LB figma’s as well, but as you can tell it’s tricky to keep everything updated when you have a lot of pages

But what you’ve done is excellent

and have a link to where all the conversation happened

Glad you liked it ;)

The only issue is not being able to have a lot of editors without paying… and it’s expensive too

So people will have to clone stuff

given that most contributors are students, students get free premium accounts

but otherwise, money would be spent

thats why we should keep a link in each page that leads to another contributors figma

I’m not a student 🥲

but the final designs, remain on this figma

xD

Ohh that’s how you managed to invite me to edit that other one! Maybe I can hassle MeB to pay for an account but it really is $$$, I don’t know if it’s worth it

I’ll put a link to your LB App figma into design system

No need to pay just wait a second ill show you how we can bypass that

aerozol: have a look at the figma again, go to feed page (under pages section)

Okay, what am I looking at

So the finalized designs remain here

btw how many people are allowed to edit in one figma?

Cool cool, but what’s that got to do with me being able to invite people to edit Figma/not getting a paid account 🤔

I believe without a paid account you can only have 1 or two figma’s that other can edit (I’ve hit this limit)

just have one paid account for MeB then

Having a central figma’s all good, as long as someone updates it, if that person goes AWOL we can just clone the figma (I love that feature)

Yeah for sure, just quite a high monthly cost. Let’s try get away without it for a bit longer...

i think no of invites is unlimiteed for paid figma

so 2 maintainers then huh

pricing sure is outta pocket

We can always pay if it becomes a problem

renamed the figma to ListenBrainz Android

also aerozol: the stories type idea for similar listens page didn't strike the mark

need something else

Sorry, can you expand what you mean? You mean just having a feed of recent listens isn’t good, or which one?

the similar listens page with the horizontal scroll of user similarity

in LB Android Feed

Didn’t strike the mark with who?

didnt look good

i had tried some stuff but nothing seems to fit into the design

take a look at similar listens 3 - Dark

Cool, I’ll look tonight and have a play

alrighty

🐟

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jasje: I added the ListenBrainz App to the Design System readme, and made some changes to the figma - have a look. I’ll do similar for the others as well

aerozol: looks good to me!

mayhem: lol, someone reported troi-bot as a bot :)

(in LB(

lol

I mean..

jasje: jasje_: I left a comment and did another mockup with how it could work on click/tap - but I really like it! Curious to know what you don’t like

aerozol: just saw it

the circles look bland to me. The listen cards have so much going on and on the other hand there are the circles

At this stage in the design discussion it’s more about the functionality. If we know that the function works - e.g. it’s a good way to display information, it makes sense, etc - then we can make it more interesting visually afterwards

Function *before* form (if you remember that discussion from last week!)

there won't be any problems with the functionality ill assure you that

Do you mean that you do like the similar users horizontal scroll at the top like that, just not how it looks?

yus

Okay, cool! I thought you wanted to go back to the drawing board

also maybe no

:D

aerozol: drawing board would be nice

Okay, we can do that, but you need to say what you don’t like about the functionality of the horizontal scroll at the top

From a the user experience perspective

it doesn't serve the exact purpose i was thinking, let me elaborate

so lets say i open up the similar listens tab

firstly i want to confirm that there isn't going to be timestamp afaik

One thing I like about not messing with the core feed ‘list’ style is that we can potentially add more feed tabs! And it’s very inviting for me to side swipe through them and see what comes up. If every one has a unique style and cards and so on it becomes too confusing to do that, I have to stop and re-examine each tab

We wont know when a song has been played, you mean?

yes

Then it shouldn’t be in feed at all

If it’s not a feed

the current top recordings apis don't have that well have to confirm with lucifer first

if he can include the ts and if its okay with this extra metadata

i hope so

Why are we using top recordings?

to get the most listened recordings for that day

I thought this was similar users, and then grab their recent listens

yup it is that

top recordings from recent listens of similar users

That doesn’t quite fit for me

anyways i don't think the timestamp thing will be that difficult

so you want recent listens?

Yeah, just a basic feed of what they’ve listened to. A few reasons:

If a similar user is listening to some niche music/a discovery unique to them, I’m not sure we want to bury it under what’s most popular. We kind of already have that function in fresh releases, and global stats and so on. I think the feed should be a ‘feed’

makes sense

Besides that I think it’s getting complicated. Grab top 10 similar users > aggregate their listens (I don’t know how likely it is that they’re listening to the same albums anyway?) based on x recent timeframe > group them in some way where we can see who’s listened to what and how much but also total listens...

i thought since it was for a day it could go to feed

recent listens it is then

I don’t think similar users accounts for activity? So if a lot of them are inactive it might be an empty feed? I think it’s cool to make this a super powerful function, but I think it would make life easier for you to start with the basic

I thought we could have something much more precise

*empty feed if we refresh every day

I hear you, I’m just thinking of potential problems. And a lot are coming to mind! I also think you are underestimating how useful the ‘boring’ version of this is to a lot of people ;)

that is true

no questions there

Here’s a thought - how about we start with a really simple version of the similar users feed. And then you use the ‘Explore’ section (have to see how this looks on mobile…) to make the crazy powerful/precise tool you’re imagining, and just make it live there. That’s why I put a beta section into the website Explore mockup, but we haven’t used it yet.

oh yeah i was thinking of having a beta tag for the app too

LB has so much potential for crazy stuff, there’s no reason why we can’t do it all. And why it couldn’t eventually wrap into the main pages if it turns out it works great

last time i built yim, some part of it was released midway

since alot of the main pages of website are to be ported to the app

Hey btw jasje_, shall I replace the png logo collection with svgs in the figma, or are the pngs more useful in some cases?

I was thing of having a small [beta] tag that depicts it is under active development

I was thinking more for specific tools that you want to work on, in the Explore section, e.g. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CPhh3...

svgs work good but i think list time i faced some problems with one of them, ill check and delete if they are unnecessary

Ok, I’ll leave them for now

just add the svgs for now

aerozol: no explore section on the app rn :skull:

but soon

Yeah, but we had different visions for that...

If the app ends up having an Explore section like the website does/will, it will be a perfect sandbox for you

alot of stuff comes before that sadly

the app has no graphs to show statistics

ill be able to crack that atleast

jasje_: That should be fun!

I might turn some of the figma assets into components - you know how they work?

aerozol: pls dont

ill cry

How come?

things keep getting messed up with them

i can't explain why but you should keep in mind that any other contributor who checks out these figmas

will probably have difficulties handling components

I’ve found them useful, but sure thing. You’re going to run into trouble when you need to update a search icon across 20+ mockups though :P

oh so thats what they are used for

sure then go ahead xD

Yeah, you can just update the original asset, and everything changes. BUT you are right that it can be confusing.

i guess we could explain it to the new contributors then

You can right click components and then click ‘detach instance’ to just make it a regular editable thing