#metabrainz

Aren't things often broadcast through several timezones at once?

(of course that technically can also affect date itself but)

mayhem: I thought you wanted it to be cheaper? :D that sounds like a lot of flying people in

(I don't mind the idea, but)

(probably tons of nice birds if the smoke hasn't killed them all)

I just said: "if the 4 unicorns that are circling, land, then we can do it in india)"

In Jan incan look at how much more expensive it might be.

So far the smog has not killed the birds. We know that birds are not real

reosarevok: Hmmm, hadn't thought about that... I live in a too small country with just one timezone :P

The thing is that broadcast times are usually very well documented (if the date is) so it would be nice to be able to enter them :)

Oh, and the closing paren of the "Guidelines" is missing :P

Oh no

Fixed, thanks

Yeah, I can see that - maybe an American can tell us how that works for the US broadcasts

Would you specifically create a new label for a broadcast channel (which does not already exist as imprint) or would you just use the broadcasting company in that case?

(I haven't encountered that case so far, but I was already worrying about this... It would imply that we might need a new label type.)

[musicbrainz-server] 14mwiencek opened pull request #3097 (03production…lat-inst-aliases): Store instrument_aliases on LinkAttributeType https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

reosarevok: kellnerd: depends on if the broadcast is live or pre-recorded & aired at the same local time in each region. I guess using the local time where the broadcast is hosted/produced makes the most sense?

bitmap: migration PR up for review :)

atj: Are ZFSes ready to go? :)

bitmap: Actually I was wrong: a new image isn’t needed right now, it can wait for the next MBS release.

yvanzo: /srv/musicbrainz/dumps

yvanzo: thanks, I'm reviewing it now

bitmap: It doesn’t take into account the new mountpoint for creating volumes yet.

okay

heh, that must be one of the last references to bowie

he never dies ;)

[listenbrainz-android] 14akshaaatt merged pull request #282 (03dev…dependabot/gradle/dev/com.google.devtools.ksp-1.9.20-1.0.14): Bump com.google.devtools.ksp from 1.9.10-1.0.13 to 1.9.20-1.0.14 https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-andr...

atj, bitmap: Not sure how to create a volume under a different path than DOCKER_ROOT_DIR? https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/comman...

you don't create a volume, it's a bind mount

check the docker command that creates the PG servers

thanks, found `start_postgres_cluster_node_v2`

It means that we cannot run it on any server though.

well, let's worry about that at a later date. you can add a check to make sure the directory exists if you want.

sure, just adding checks for these volumes to exist when running the container.

kellnerd: I did consider that, it might make sense to have a radio station label type

Still not sure what happens with stuff like podcasts, are those broadcast theoretically? Guess not

Broadcast the verb, not the rh type

*rg

Classical podcasts are download only, but nowadays they brand a lot of other stuff (comedy, audio drama) as podcast (at least in Germany) which is also broadcast over radio.

I think editors will figure it out where to use just the release date and where to use a broadcast relationship for podcasts (but I am optimistic when it comes to editors always applying common sense).

*over-optimistic

*delusional ;)

atj, bitmap: I pushed commits in the PR for using ZFS volumes. If it looks good to you, I will update volume copy instructions accordingly.

yvanzo: can you link the PR please?

didn't see it in the backlog

atj: https://github.com/metabrainz/docker-server-con...

reosarevok: I've found the first radio station label which I had to add: https://musicbrainz.org/label/7e9f2c29-a8da-4a1...

There is even https://musicbrainz.org/tag/radio%20station already, which also lists some artists :face_with_rolling_eyes:

"WHYY" indeed

🤣

WFMU <3

Anyone else having issue (connection timeouts) trying to ssh into wolf?

monkey: not me

OK, thanks. Internet here then, I gues

+s

bitmap: Would `/srv/musicbrainz` work for you? Or does it have to be more fine-grained?

yeah, I just left a comment agreeing to that, if it's easy to change

Thank you, let’s see how atj it is to change :)

lol

bitmap: how big are replication packets on the filesystem?

atj: 25G

one file or multiple?

multiple

~180K files

individually the last few are between 200K-400K

The plan is to archive the ones that from the previous schema sequence, so about every year, keeping at most 9K files.

(but for now, we have that huge directory)

bitmap: Does `RequireAuth` imply something such as `$c->user_exists`?

(off-topic)

it should, yes

(I didn’t find the doc about it.)

I guess the only exception is the ConfirmSeed page which shows for cross-origin requests

(the original endpoint will have RequireAuth, but the user will be logged-out when viewing the ConfirmSeed page)

are the replication packets compressed?

sorry about all the questions

yes

atj: no worry, are you creating a ZFS volume for each current docker volume?

(or am I misunderstanding the direction of your questions?)

yvanzo: I added a reply on the PR which gives some context around reasons for creating separate ZFS datasets

at this point I think it might just be easier to have a single parent dataset

unless any of the reasons I gave are applicable here

everything is compressed already but logs

full-exports has huge files, while the other have smaller files

+s

I agree that a single parent would work for now

OK, i'll delete the dump dataset and you can just create sub-directories under /srv/musicbrainz

Thank you.

yvanzo: did the `--device-write-bps` arg fix the issue in the end?

No.

heh, well that's good in a way as i'm wondering whether it will even work with ZFS due to datasets not being "real" devices

you may find the docker command fails

It is likely not going to change anything but I just updated it in case it does.

Just found your comment to the PR, yes, it will bug, thanks.

Nope, actually Docker seems to handle zpool :)

this would be nice https://www.jenkins.io/doc/book/using/using-age...

maybe we could set up a jenkins agent on patton?

bitmap: running build agents on internal infra makes me nervous from a security PoC to be honest

yea I can understand why

no issues with running an agent but my preference would be on a machine like wolf that is treated as like a DMZ

would there be any benefits to an agent running on a machine with internal connectivity?

for the jobs I want to parallelize (MB's selenium tests), not really, since they are self-contained

we do have one job that rsyncs to the gateways

bitmap: I’ve got to go. When do we move to hendrix?

yvanzo: if you want to execute the move, whenever you are able

we could do it tomorrow if you'd like

sorry, I forgot it was friday

tomorrow is sat, should we disable prod cron?

yes

I’m not necessarily needed to execute it either.

I can do the move today then

If you have time, otherwise just disable prod cron, thank you.

np

(I mean disable `admin/cron/daily.sh` in crontab)

thanks for preparing the PR and associated instructions, I'll work on it

I didn’t update instructions for copying Docker volumes to ZFS stuff yet.

ok, will do

(unless you are planning to before you go)

bitmap: I just updated the step #5 but it has to be tested (step #1) in particular check whether it doesn’t create a `_data` subdirectory on hendrix.

ok, ty!

I guess this line isn't needed: docker volume create --driver local --name "$ZFS_SUBDIRECTORY"

?

nope

bitmap: I think the first rsync command in step #5 might be wrong, it depends if the `docker volume create` command creates the _data sub-directory

[listenbrainz-server] 14amCap1712 opened pull request #2633 (03master…playlist-fix): Link to each artist in artist credit separately on Playlist pages https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-serv...

atj: it doesn't normally create the sub-directory?

bitmap: i don't know to be honest

ok, I'll have it exit if the directory doesn't exist, we'll see

atj: rsync isn't installed on the host, I can install it but dunno if that should also be part of ansible

bitmap: hmm, yeah it should be really! i keep coming across stuff that isn't installed by default

lsof, strace, htop etc.

although, hendrix and jimmy were installed in a different way to most hosts because they run root on ZFS

ah ok

psql would be nice too