how do I get to know more about the bookshelf ORM?
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monkey: I did that LB once-over! Hopefully all smaller fixes, some of them you might not want to change, some might end up being bigger and need their own tickets. Some I can even tackle myself, if you’d like and agree with the suggestions! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PhLbmW6P73S...
discordbrainz
<11YoMo12> Not my listens, but I see here an interesting thing that the recording is mapped correctly but the artist isn't. Why is that? https://listenbrainz.org/user/BinyaminG/?max_ts... Artist name: Shmueli Ungar
<03metadataismydrug> @YoMo12 Look at the MBID before you click the link, then look again when you click it and end up on MusicBrainz. ID changes. Look at the edit history you will see merges. The listen seems to have been mapped before a merge. I've seen this before with merged recordings. LB doesn't seem to update mappings after a merge?
<11YoMo12> You are right. It seems like that's the issue here.
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Is LB down?
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rimskii[m]: was briefly for a few minutes, fixed now
mayhem: birds eye chillies and the "generic" ones right?
mayhem
I think so.
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mayhem: I agree with the blog you shared. Spotify doesn’t have the touch anymore. Just yesterday my yearly Spotify subscription got done and I couldn’t make the renewal payment on time and they automatically deleted all my downloaded songs. It was such a pain to get it to work again and have to download everything again. The UX was negative. Plus I think the app is useless for me regarding music discovery. I just use
search and stream my own music. Wrapped was also shitty last year from them
mayhem
akshaaatt: all of that. agreed 100%
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mayhem: akshaaatt (IRC) I also heard somewhere that the senior music recommendation team left Spotify :( that sucks I used to really love the app
I feel the fact which set it apart initially was its amazing playlists and the ability to play awesome songs with just 2-3 songs and it kept recommending stuff
mayhem
pranav[m]: that whole team was laid off. their all star recommendations team. all gone.
pranav[m]
Not to mention the amazing design
mayhem: damn.. nothing good to come in the near future then ig?
mayhem
I wouldn't expect much, no.
pranav[m]
Ahh that is sad :(
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<03_flaky> I remember Glenn Mcdonald joined RYM to clarify Spotify's recommendations since the people there were clowning on Spotify for some of the weird "niche mixes", and tbf there were some weird ones (ASMR mix just gave me hyperpop...) but there were some amazing ones too (the anti-anxiety mix tended to hit on my account real well)
akshaaatt
Tbh I really don’t understand Spotify’s design anymore. I really don’t care about that Home page. I used to at some point but now it is just weird
pranav[m]
Also, akshaaatt (IRC) could u pls review the latest PR whenever u can?
It is already reviewed by jasje and he has given his approval
mayhem
the design has been bothersome for years. ugly as hell. and then some open source jukebox *copied* it. Ugh.
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<03_flaky> I use Apple Music nowadays, I get more out of that than Spotify, though their Windows app could use some work. It seems like UWP is really slow if you've got like 10k songs in your library.
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pranav[m]: been travelling out currently. Should review by day after tomorrow. You can continue working on other tasks until then. Thanks!
pranav[m]
Alright akshaaatt (IRC) .. safe travels
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akshaaatt
mayhem I think Spotify has been trying to get user retention on their platform somehow and introducing random things. They need to realise that people stream music on their platform and are more interested in discovery. Like, last year’s wrapped was some random videos coming and assigning me random similarity with artists.. I think the LB yim was far more superior to wrapped this year in terms of design, presentation and
the data (of course)
I would be happy to spend more time on music streaming apps for discovery personally, but nothing more
mayhem
the current sentiment is that "discovery doesn't pay". given that, remember that spotify has been owned by the labels for over a decade now, so they're fully profit driven and don't give a fuck about their end customers anymore.
so discovery? gotta go, only an expense.
and most of the wrapped team was laid off anyway, so I can't even imagine what's it going to be like next year. I would not be surprised if there won't be one.
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mayhem: Are you using LB test at the moment?
mayhem
feel free to use it.
monkey
👍
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their wrapped had a special team?
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mayhem
thats what the article I read made it sound like.
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Schmias
hi. I've written a script to submit my play history to listenbrainz. can I first try it on https://test.listenbrainz.org/? where's the api for it?
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monkey
Hi Schmias ! We don't have a separate database for test.listenbrainz.org, it's only a testing ground for our website front-end, but it's the same production database running behind it.