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aerozol: do you mean 12:30 PM instead?

Lucifer: yes 😁

ah cool, I am around now. So how about in 10 mins?

Hi! After my initial import from last.fm, spotify kept on scrobbling. If I re-run the last.fm importer, is it smart enough not to duplicate tracks that were also sent directly to listenbrainz? The reason I'm asking is I'm pondering replacing spotify with tidal, but since there's no direct way to submit to listenbrainz with tidal, the most likely workaround would be to import from last.fm on a

semi-regular basis

Hi aerozol[m], posting truncated reviews is gaming our system for gaining clicks/visitors, it is a breach of MeB CoC #9.

That seemed normal but maybe CritiqueBrainz should specify that the reviews have to be self-contained.

*normal: implicit

Maybe this person did post these in good faith, but it isn’t TeaserBrainz.

reosarevok: can you look at yvanzo’s and my messages just above? If you agree I will email the user and expand the CB guidelines to be specific on this point

I don't see it as badly as yvanzo but I don't disagree that it's not great

It's also weird conceptually - so a part of the review is now creative commons and the rest is not?

So I'm okay with the suggestion, although dunno if you feel it would make sense to ask the community

I’ll do a forum post, can’t hurt. I’ll tell that user to hold off, and link them to that post, as well

reosarevok: yvanzo: Community thread here. Feel free to edit if you spot mistakes or important information is missing, or reply. https://community.metabrainz.org/t/should-we-al...

moooin!

lucifer: that data looks gorgeous! 😍 thanks!

reosarevok: thanks for the query will play soon.

moooin!

Hi zerodogg (IRC) ! It is possible that you might end up with duplicates, if somehow the submission timestamp differs between the Last.FM scrobble and the Spotify listen that was sent to ListenBrainz.

Since we use the timestamp to de-duplicate, if there is a variation you're likely to end up with a duplicate

I think there is no buffer for that timestamp variation, meaning the timestamp would need to be exactly the same. mayhem (IRC) could you confirm or infirm?

yup timestamp needs to be exact same for dedup at the moment.

Thx

monkey[m], lucifer: any way to avoid that (or any other way to regularly import from Tidal)? Could the "last imported" timestamp for the account be moved manually so that it just skips over the older data?

I think that's the way to go, and I believe we discussed such a solution before, to add an option to define a time range to import from

But nothing that we currently have a solid plan for

zerodogg: we have been also discussing adding deduplication for timestamps in 5-10s range.

Does tidal allow exporting your listening history somehow?

so even if you are a little off the mark, it should detect it. but it will take some time and deliberation to get it done.

lucifer: nod

monkey[m]: I'm not exactly sure. I haven't actually switched over yet. But considering doing so since Spotify as a company is sort of terrible (which all are I suppose, but Tidal gives more per stream to artists)

Agree

There's a third-party tidal client that integrates with listenbrainz, but I'd still need to get my phone listens registered

Ah, well the ListenBrainz android app is nice for that, or pano scrobbler

And on browsers there is WebScrobbler

I'm forced to use iOS by my employer, anything for that?

the iOS app is in development but i don't think it supports listen submissions because iOS restrictions, akshaaatt would know though

Not sure about any good scrobblers for ios

zerodogg (IRC): None that send listens to ListenBrainz, it looks like, but for sending to L.FM: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/finale-for-last-f...

nod, tidal has builtin last.fm support, hence my thought that just doing a regular manual import might be a solution, but that would also import roughly half a year of duplicate data most likely :)

zerodogg (IRC): There is a way you can manually update the last import timestamp so that you don't import any scrobbles before a given timestamp. Would that solve your issue?

monkey[m]: that would completely solve it. I could just set the timestamp to when I do the switchover, and then just tell listenbrainz to re-import from last.fm regularly (maybe I could hack up a weekly cronjob that pings it)

Noice

Fantastic, thanks!

POST a JSON blob with a UNIX epoch timestamps in UTC

You're welcome! Please let us know if you find a good iOS scrobbling solution

I will. The Last.fm importer is an in-browser thing? So automation needs a headless browser?

It is in browser indeed

https://github.com/mwiencek/lastfm-listenbrainz... seems ideal actually

anyhoo, thanks a lot for your assistance! :D

Hehe, by none other than our very own bitmap :D

Glad I could help!

I had no idea. very cool!

don't we have a gsoc project we can give bitmap??? :D

"Fetching/submitting scrobbles for a particular date" <- ooooohh

reosarevok: thanks for that query -- exactly what I needed!

mayhem: yeah! :D

monkey[m]: -^

Hey all, when searching for musicians I like in the Music Neighbourhood section of ListenBrainz, I found a few where there were no similar artists.

that's possible if there are too few listeners for the artist.

Is it purely based on listens?

yes

Ah, I was mainly curious if there was anything I can do on MusicBrainz to help with that. Thanks!

Ballmer Peak debunked, but a couple of drinks might actually be good. who knew? https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.10002

BinzyBoi: MB data isn't really used in that except for mapping listens to recordings so not much

Perfect, all I needed to know. Again, thanks

<lucifer> "Satyaraj: `./develop.sh psql..." <- thanks!

mayhem (IRC), lucifer (IRC) : Quick question about user similarity calculation: huhridge (IRC) and I have one artist in common out of our top 100, yet our similarity is not calculated. Is that because they are not calculated very often? Or are they calculated in a way that does not take artists into account?

For reference, this returns 404 and "Similar-to user not found": https://api.listenbrainz.org/1/user/huhridge/si...

Same if inverting the names

the similarity calculations may still be broken. lucifer found that they were suddenly taking way more ram and started crashing.

we'll have to wait to hear deets from lucifer

OK thanks

there isn't an labs api for searching albums tight?

*right?

what do you want to do?

search for albums, for the manual listen ticket

there's one for tracks, that is being used

use musicbrainz search then

this rigth?

*right

yep

cool thanks!