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aerozol[m]
yvanzo: bitmap: reosarevok: This has slipped under my radar a bit - could the blog post mention in it that we don’t allow titles over x length any more? And what the style guidance is for truncating? Those are the things our editors will want to know imo
since growth is no longer on the books, its time to put the squeeze on the users.
aerozol
Ooh GSoC results today? According to Twitter
mayhem
yep. :)
aerozol
Exciting!
mayhem
of course we know the answers already. :D
aerozol
I don’t haha. No spoilers!!
mayhem is quite pleased
p.s. I want to share this shortened track title MB server fix to our socials, but I think it would be cool to add style guidance first, if there is any, when you’re on reosarevok
reosarevok
It's a holiday, aerozol! :D
aerozol
Ooh, happy holidays!!
mayhem is still paying people
Oh shit, gotta send my invoice
aerozol does that now
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yvanzo
mayhem: same ^
re aerozol, cc reosarevok: On “complaints”, I’ve rather read that they enjoy the bugs they trigger, it is literally written in their “title”. They are specifically targeting online music platforms and databases.
re aerozol, cc bitmap, cc reosarevok: On “the blog post”, this change is already mentioned in the ticket’s title which is listed once and linked twice. It isn’t impacting anyone but mostly trolls and a very few mistaken editors (one every four years on average). Last, we don’t want to give trolls the effect/visibility they seek to obtain, so keeping low profile on this is just fine. For the same reason, I won’t spend any more
time about this topic.
ApeKattQuest
[14:33] <reosarevok> Well, we're not going to add a guideline saying titles should be short, because I strongly disagree with that idea, long titles are a valid artistic choice :)
[14:33] <reosarevok> We can document that we have a maximum limit for technical reasons, that's it
I agree very strongyl here (and also i would like to wor kagaisnt the database limit in the future)
hm..
hmm
lucifer
mayhem: anything particular you would like me to work on?
ApeKattQuest
I was under the impression that this was going to be temporary until (at some time) we fix the underlyig issue. that fixing wasn't exactly top priority since the issue was rare and not often showing up
but sillyname names are valid?
sure sometimes it's to poke a box to see how many charas show up
but I can even think of valid situiations where eg an AC would be long af witouth it being to "troll" someone
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<aerozol> "Exciting!" <- and nervous 😅
ApeKattQuest
i really really think we shouldn't put the breaks on AC lenght in full!
not being top priority to fix is fine. but it shoudl eventually be reverted so longer text titles and the like can be added as before
I guess yvanzo doesn’t want to talk about it, but is he expressing thoughts of a lot of people, in discussions that I’ve missed? Maybe with bitmap?
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aerozol[m]
FWIW I’m sure some people are vandals/trolls. I don’t really care about them, f*ck them - I just want to have robust communications for the editors (that we do care about) who put time into editing and will be effected or run into this eventually. But I can bow out if it’s not helpful, this seems like a spiky subject
aerozol[m] needs to stop jumping between bridges/services...
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FichteFoll
zas, atj, since you debugged the weird ipv4 openssl issue with me last time: just as I was about to summarize our findings in a forum post, I came to realize that the issue has resolved itself in the meantime.
there was no openssl update since then, so that probably wasn't it, but I also don't want to spend any more time on this, so I'll just treat it as a fluke and move on
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atj
FichteFoll: thanks for the update. Glad it's resolved. What a strange issue!
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bitmap
aerozol: I only really discussed it in the pull request (and briefly on IRC when I was finding statistics on title length). I did propose increasing the allowed length further (or allowing auto-editors to bypass the restriction), but was mainly concerned with preventing the replication/dump issues for now.
yvanzo: sorry I had seen your ping about the blog post, but then got distracted and failed to review it -- thanks for posting it anyway
derat: that's true, I think it should be possible to encode those fallbacks in the sql query, but we'd still need to keep the perl implementation for the search code which is kinda annoying
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monkey
ansh: thanks for reporting. I'm out and about today but will look tomorrow. I don't remember what's running on test
ansh
Right now, it's the huesound refactor PR
monkey
I see. Yeah, a tomorrow problem :D
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ansh (IRC): Just tried on test.LB, was able to connect to Spotify. Maybe related to our rate limit issues with the spotify api? Not sure what happened there
would really like to know what went wrong with my proposal if that's possible, for future experiences
Satyaraj[m]
huhridge: Ya, me too
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pranav[m]
Congrats everyone! This just feels surreal
discordbrainz
<07munishk> Congrats everyone!!
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rimskii[m]
Congrats !
feeling so happy haha
discordbrainz
<10avamander> Gratz
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ApeKattQuest
aerozol: I mean I totally get that. the vandals/trolls are annoying for sure.
personally I don't *care* and want to just fix it so their attempted breakege does nothing.. somehow having to truncate titles just feels like concession a bit (as well as possible "valid" uberlong titles having an issue)
monkey[m]
Well done to everyone that participated this year, and congratulations to those who got selected!
We had lots of quality proposals this year 👏
ApeKattQuest
I did propose increasing the allowed length further (or allowing auto-editors to bypass the restriction),
interesting idea..
kellnerd
Congratulations to everyone who made it this year and my best wishes for all others, next year is your chance to come back with an even stronger proposal!
ApeKattQuest
I remember 2 years ago that there was one person rejected, not based on thier proposal being off but simply becasue there wasn't enough spaces
so it might be tha huhridge
kellnerd
Thanks MetaBrainz for giving me the chance to continue last years project!
Tarun_0x0
number of slots allotted by google plays a major role i guess
ApeKattQuest
it does actually! it's hard for the mentors to pick when so many god proposals
good*
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kellnerd
Definitely, if I correctly understood the procedure correctly, the organization does not know beforehand how many students they get, they can only rank proposals.
akshaaatt
Congratulations everyone!! ❤️🔥
monkey[m]
I confirm it's hard every year to select a limited amount of proposals, and heart wrenching at times
ApeKattQuest
but from experience i can tell you that anyone not had theri proposal accepted: STAY, stay for a year and get to know us even more, get editing, get bugfixing, and then the chance is very, very high that nex year you will be accepted
yvanzo
aerozol: If you do share about the MB Server hotfix on our social networks (I’m not sure that it is timely anymore), please don’t let it shade the happiness of these much better news: https://blog.metabrainz.org/2024/05/01/welcome-... 😄
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Tarun_0x0
I also got rejected but its fine, in these past months I got to learn so much... maybe next year 😁