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aerozol[m]
Posted the Picard 3.0 Q&A blog post, before another post pops up to displace it again
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5:45 AM
aerozol[m]
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aerozol[m]
outsidecontext ^
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6:09 AM
yvanzo
Backing up SolrCloud 9 collections.
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7:15 AM
atj
yvanzo: did it work? I see folders on the nodes?
2024-05-29 15016, 2024
7:16 AM
yvanzo
It seems so, I’m setting up a standalone Solr instance on wolf to try loading them.
2024-05-29 15010, 2024
7:17 AM
yvanzo
Also, good news is that the new Solr incremental backups should make dump creation much faster.
2024-05-29 15021, 2024
7:17 AM
atj
are you just syncing them from all the nodes into one folder?
2024-05-29 15006, 2024
7:18 AM
yvanzo
no sync at this stage
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7:19 AM
yvanzo
just pre-making folders on all nodes beforehand
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7:19 AM
atj
:/
2024-05-29 15015, 2024
7:20 AM
yvanzo
for example, recording has 4 shards, each with a different leader, I just sent one query and they all did generate the appropriate backup files.
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7:20 AM
yvanzo
(one query to only one node)
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7:21 AM
BrainzGit
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7:44 AM
ApeKattQuest
[23:39] <aerozol[m]> Thanks yvanzo, copied (with slight adjustment) to X
2024-05-29 15018, 2024
7:44 AM
ApeKattQuest
can we not call twitter x? can we be social disobedient enough to elon and his cronies to *continue* to call it twitter?
2024-05-29 15018, 2024
7:44 AM
ApeKattQuest
jeg bare spør
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7:44 AM
BrainzGit
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7:44 AM
ApeKattQuest
I want kids 10, 20 years from now asking us "why ar eyou calling x twitter?" and thne the story of why never dies
2024-05-29 15021, 2024
7:45 AM
BrainzGit
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7:48 AM
reosarevok
I would very much hope there's no twitter/x in 5 years, much less 10 or 20 :p
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7:48 AM
ApeKattQuest
I would hopw so? i go friends there and a community
2024-05-29 15057, 2024
7:48 AM
ApeKattQuest
right now it's already falling apart because of everything
2024-05-29 15014, 2024
7:49 AM
ApeKattQuest
(and the lack of new lupincontent but that's a different thing)
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8:24 AM
discordbrainz
<05rustynova> I personally don't think Elon will remain CEO for long, but the platform wouldn't die. And either I call it twitter, or "X (formerly known as twitter)" because it's funnier that way
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8:25 AM
atj
i think refusing to use a platform owned by a white supremacist would be a more suitable form of "social disobedience" than quibbling about names
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8:29 AM
tykling
^ this times 1000
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8:29 AM
ApeKattQuest
rustynova :D
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8:30 AM
ApeKattQuest
well "not using it" means jsut "I won't be able to interact with these people i want to interact with" so that's moot
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8:31 AM
atj
well in that case don't try to police what other people do then
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8:31 AM
ApeKattQuest
also they don't care about users not using it, they *do* care about their dumb brandname not being used
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8:32 AM
ApeKattQuest
"can we not call twitter x?" = policing, now apparently
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8:33 AM
ApeKattQuest
it was a polite bequest, it was not an affront to you, personally :P
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8:33 AM
ApeKattQuest
stop taking it that way ;)
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8:40 AM
atj
me criticizing bad takes is not "taking it personally"
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8:41 AM
atj
but hey, I'm sure Elon will ban all the Nazis and stop retweeting Ian Miles Cheong if you call it Twitter enough
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8:41 AM
ApeKattQuest
well that's what it comes off as. also who are you to decide whats a bad take or not :P
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8:41 AM
ApeKattQuest
he definitly wont
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8:45 AM
reosarevok
I expect unless something changes, communities that currently live on Twitter will probably move elsewhere eventually
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reosarevok
I guess the main question is what the somewhere is :)
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ApeKattQuest
yep, they definitely will, but the problem is that it will splinter, and that makes me unhappy so I'm a bit ornery :wry:
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8:49 AM
ApeKattQuest
:)
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8:53 AM
yvanzo
reosarevok: seems obvious: Truth Social ;)
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mayhem
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9:01 AM
lucifer
will get worse next month, 50-55 even. should be better once the monsoon rains start by july.
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kellnerd
🫠
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mr44er[m]
CPU+NVME 🫠
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aerozol[m]
ApeKattQuest: I feel like calling it X (which nobody knows) does more harm to Elon etc?
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9:32 AM
aerozol[m]
I can use ‘X (formerly Twitter)’ like most places do, when the word count allows 👍️
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9:32 AM
reosarevok
The X formerly known as Twitter
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monkey[m]
Xitter
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9:51 AM
atj
yvanzo: i'll try and get NFS set up today
2024-05-29 15053, 2024
9:51 AM
atj
will mount the share under `/var/lib/solr/backups`
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9:52 AM
atj
then i need to install rsync and set up the SSH key. might be best if we generate a new one?
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9:52 AM
atj
*rrsync
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9:59 AM
yvanzo
atj: The new backup format can no longer be tampered with to load into Solr standalone mode. Will have to set SolrCloud mode even for mirrors.
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10:01 AM
yvanzo
Thanks, it will always be useful to have an NFS share in case we actually need backups.
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10:02 AM
yvanzo
Yes to generating a new key.
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10:16 AM
yvanzo
atj: Not even sure if that can be restored in another cluster.
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10:18 AM
atj
yvanzo: that is stretching the meaning of the word "backup" if true
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10:18 AM
yvanzo
I mean the backup might also include the distribution on nodes.
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10:23 AM
yvanzo
atj: I noticed that `solr` user/group IDs vary across the nodes.
2024-05-29 15018, 2024
10:25 AM
atj
hmm, not sure how that happened
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10:31 AM
atj
yvanzo: i will need to shutdown solr on each box to fix this
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10:31 AM
mr44er[m]
nfs3 vs nfs4 maybe?
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10:31 AM
atj
nah, it's an error on my part
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10:31 AM
mr44er[m]
kk
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10:32 AM
atj
i set the uid / gid to be 998 in the ansible configuration, but other packages took it
2024-05-29 15010, 2024
10:32 AM
yvanzo
atj: Does beta.mb.o have to be switched back to Solr 7 in the meantime?
2024-05-29 15022, 2024
10:32 AM
atj
yvanzo: i can do it one by one, so no
2024-05-29 15036, 2024
10:32 AM
atj
it will be a good test of the resiliency actually
2024-05-29 15007, 2024
10:33 AM
yvanzo
Yes, we should see some changes in shards’ leaders.
2024-05-29 15057, 2024
10:35 AM
yvanzo
I saved the collection status locally for comparison.
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10:36 AM
atj
yvanzo: great thanks. i will start on node 1 now
2024-05-29 15035, 2024
10:42 AM
atj
yvanzo: node 1 is back
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10:49 AM
yvanzo
nodes 2, 3 & 5 took the lead on its four shards
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10:52 AM
atj
I need to nip out for a little bit now, but the process is straightforward so I'll just go through the others one by one when I get back
2024-05-29 15038, 2024
10:52 AM
yvanzo
Thanks!
2024-05-29 15053, 2024
10:52 AM
atj
thanks for noticing, much better to fix this now!
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10:59 AM
BrainzGit
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10:59 AM
mayhem
atj: lucifer: zas: how can we move the ipv6 support issue forward in order to complete the matrix migration?
2024-05-29 15019, 2024
11:04 AM
lucifer
mayhem: i think atj was looking into that but currently busy with solr stuff.
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11:11 AM
atj
zas: do you know if we can assign 2 IPv6 /64 subnets to a VM?
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11:15 AM
lucifer
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11:35 AM
zas
atj: I don't think so. Why would it be needed?
2024-05-29 15056, 2024
11:42 AM
atj
zas: need to delegate a prefix to the matrix irc bridge
2024-05-29 15030, 2024
12:00 PM
lucifer
atj, zas: not sure if it makes sense, but would it possible to to use a /48 or /32 subspace inside the /64 already assigned to the vm?
2024-05-29 15055, 2024
12:00 PM
atj
lucifer: i had another look at the issue i linked before, and it looks like that's possible
2024-05-29 15044, 2024
12:01 PM
atj
however the docker docs are a bit unclear "the base value for IPv6 needs a minimum prefix length of /64. This is due to an integer overflow in the Docker daemon"
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12:01 PM
atj
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12:02 PM
atj
a great couple of notes there "defining an excessive number of subnets causes the daemon to consume all available memory."
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12:07 PM
lucifer
atj: ah sorry, i had it the other way around i think. i meant can we use a subdivision of the /64 subnet in docker and matrix?
2024-05-29 15029, 2024
12:08 PM
atj
lucifer: no i think it's me :P
2024-05-29 15041, 2024
12:08 PM
atj
i will need to enable ipv6 support in docker and test some things
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12:09 PM
lucifer
sounds good, let me know if i can help.
2024-05-29 15000, 2024
12:13 PM
atj
lucifer: hmm, this makes me think IP_FREEBIND won't work inside Docker
2024-05-29 15001, 2024
12:13 PM
atj
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12:14 PM
atj
tbh i'd rather use a container platform that has sensible networking support than battle with Docker
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12:15 PM
lucifer
what do you think about running the service without docker?
2024-05-29 15019, 2024
12:16 PM
atj
maybe just run the irc bridge in a systemd-nspawn container?
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12:16 PM
lucifer
i am not sure how to do that. 😅
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12:16 PM
atj
i think using the ansible role with docker is best from a maintenance perspective
2024-05-29 15007, 2024
12:19 PM
atj
sticking one isolated component in a separate container shouldn't be an issue but i need to check out how it works
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12:20 PM
mayhem
lucifer: 😬
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