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      • reosarevok[m]
        So not doing it again for Fosdem then? :p
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      • aerozol[m]
        Are we doing AI pictures now? I figured the capybara was a one-off, so whatever, but even with tongue-in-cheek captions it's a turn off for me
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      • Jade[m]
        yeah probably wrong tone for the post
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      • aerozol[m]
        (sorry to nitpick, but it's likely others will feel the same way and not give it a good read)
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      • Jade[m]
        aerozol[m]: tbf it is 3/4 down the page
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      • Aerozol[m]1
        Just had a user report that MB emails are being marked as spam on Fastmail
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      • Aerozol[m]1
        Not sure if there's anything we can do about it, if it's because of our volume/email similarity?
      • 2025-09-26 26931, 2025

      • Aerozol[m]1
        Or people hitting 'spam' instead of 'unsubscribe'.... I imagine
      • 2025-09-26 26916, 2025

      • Jade[m]
        The IP and domain aren't on any public blocklists
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      • Jade[m]
        However there's no DMARC set
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      • Jade[m]
        which might affect things a little
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      • Jade[m]
        Site note, if someone uploads a SVG to static. we could also set a BIMI record to get a profile icon in clients that support unauthenticated records - something like `default._bimi.musicbrainz.org. IN TXT "v=BIMI1; l=https://static.metabrainz.org/MB/logo-square.svg; a=; avp=personal;"`
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      • Jade[m]
        getting that to work in gmail is a $120 annual subscription though 🫠
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      • julian45[m]
        <Jade[m]> "However there's no DMARC set" <- as in pure lack of a DMARC record, or say, DMARC alignment failures?
      • 2025-09-26 26949, 2025

      • Jade[m]
        julian45[m]: Pure lack of one
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      • Jade[m]
        (an incorrect one would be significantly worse lol)
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      • julian45[m]
        yeah that'd be a good idea to have, in fact i can probably get a good one setup this evening
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      • julian45[m]
        and yeah, all the public pricing i can find for the certs BIMI requires (and there are apparently [only 3 CAs](https://bimigroup.org/vmc-issuers/) issuing them, lol) is nuts, on the order of like $1K+/year
      • 2025-09-26 26908, 2025

      • julian45[m]
        and back to the issue aerozol highlighted: a quick poke at [gmail's docs](https://support.google.com/a/answer/174124?… indicates that they require SPF, DKIM, *and* DMARC if you send over 5K emails a day to personal gmail users in order to expect normal delivery/visibility, and i imagine we meet or exceed that threshold lol
      • 2025-09-26 26936, 2025

      • Jade[m]
        <julian45[m]> "and yeah, all the public pricing..." <- Oh yeah I misspoke, $120 *monthly*
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      • Jade[m]
        It's a very 🤑 system lol
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      • julian45[m]
        also seeing that LB has no DKIM, so working on fixing that
      • 2025-09-27 27056, 2025

      • julian45[m]
        all done! added DMARC records for MeB, MB, and LB, as well as the aforementioned DKIM for LB
      • 2025-09-27 27038, 2025

      • julian45[m]
        set it at 50% enforcement for now, can ramp up as we go
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      • julian45[m]
        zas: you and i are in a google group dmarc@ that should receive aggregate reports every so often with the results of DMARC alignment checks by receiving email servers
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      • aerozol[m]
        You are amazing julian45 and Jade! I pop out and come back to a bunch of improvements on a quick 'aside' comment 😍