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      • mayhem[m]
        Evelynne: how do you feel about catering to that use case?
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      • julian45[m]
        <mayhem[m]> "I wonder how many tracks have an..." <- [here's](https://youtube.com/watch?v=isXoiYfoD… an example of a track that could plausibly cross a set of turntables and "evolves" BPM over time (from your LB mapper's "favorite" artist ;])
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      • julian45[m]
        (see 2:55 or thereabouts and beyond)
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      • mayhem[m]
        oh, from my favorite pain-in-the-ass artist at that!!
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      • julian45[m]
        yep, that's what i meant lol
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      • julian45[m]
        and i know for a fact that this artist does DJ sets of his own & others' music decently frequently (mostly in jp of course)
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      • stquincitanus[m]
        that's annoying, why am I stquincitatus and not MonkeyPython here
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      • stquincitanus[m]
        I mean I am, but on irc it's stquinicitatus?? 🤔
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      • MonkeyPython[m]
        also on matrix apparently
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      • stquincitanus[m]
        woa that's trippy AF
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      • mayhem[m]
        <julian45[m]> "[here's](https://youtube.com/..." <- so, it the tempo progression linear or will we need to fit some polynomial to cover this case?
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      • julian45[m]
        good question 🤔
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      • LupinIII
        but matric is MonkeyPython[m] in irc 🤔
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      • julian45[m]
        i think i might have to get up in there and try to tag bpms at specific measures to see if, from "start" to "finish" of the tempo progression, the bpm increase is linear or not
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      • julian45[m]
        oh and i forgot there's a substantial slowdown in that track too! (cf. 3:30 on) and it's not like it's halving previous tempo or even the starting tempo of the song
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      • mayhem[m]
        julian45[m]: I was only half serious. :) but I could see the case for supporting linear progressions.
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      • julian45[m]
        * the song, even if you subdivide the larger pulse)
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      • julian45[m]
        and if nonlinear over a larger period, one could simply try their best to break it down into smaller linear progressions i guess?
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      • MonkeyPython[m]
        that's what it looks like on matrix
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      • stquincitanus[m]
        en? on discord that doesnt even upload???
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      • Evelynne[m]
        <mayhem[m]> "Evelynne: how do you feel..." <- In my doc I already included a Q; How do we treat different styles of music, do we need to treat all music styles in the same way or do we need a genre definer?... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/xoQxCLXoOGpAovBgRrDpyRlW>)
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      • Evelynne[m]
        this is a possible outcome:
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      • Evelynne[m]
        I'm a first time matrix user, is it possible to create a topic BPM and move all messages about that subject to that topic?
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      • julian45[m]
        not really, there's technically "threading" but for many clients it just shows as regular old replies
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      • Jade[m]
        Not really, you can't move messages
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      • julian45[m]
        that too ofc
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      • Jade[m]
        Jade[m]: This is a thread.
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      • Jade[m]
        Jade[m]: Element X has experimental support now, but it's not on by default
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      • Evelynne[m]
        Jade[m]: Can a thread last for a long time?
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      • Jade[m]
        Evelynne[m]: Yep, but in some clients they can get a bit hidden / lost
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      • julian45[m]
        maybe a convo thread could be started on our discourse instance where that sort of categorizing is much easier? that would also sort of invite input from users who don't use matrix/irc/discord to interact with metabrainz and its projects
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      • Jade[m]
        Yeah, discourse is probably the right place for that kind of longterm/longform communication
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      • Evelynne[m]
        is it complete public?
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      • julian45[m]
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      • Jade[m]
        You can link to matrix messages https://matrix.to/#/!hyuEWFORfWYLZitABm:chatbrain… if you want to add references to a discourse topic
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      • Evelynne[m]
        * complete public? (I'd prefer not to have everything in the wide open at the moment)
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      • julian45[m]
        Evelynne[m]: yeah afaik; if there's a way to create private discussions/categories i'm not aware of it
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      • Jade[m]
        I mean this room is public too, if a bit less searchable
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      • Evelynne[m]
        I have already explored the discourse
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      • julian45[m]
        a private discussion room with just a few folks (members can be added/removed over time) is a thing in matrix but as a project/group of projects we generally prefer to tend towards open convos when possible so we don't use them often
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      • julian45[m]
        (e.g., for cybersecurity discussions that can't be public)
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      • julian45[m]
        also i might be wrong about discourse, according to [this overview](https://www.discourse.org/features) "private spaces" exist as something an admin can create
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      • julian45[m]
        lemme see if i can find documentation on that
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      • Evelynne[m]
        or else a dm with many people?
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      • julian45[m]
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      • julian45[m]
        a site admin can build/administer these but unfortunately i don't happen to have such rights in our instance
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      • julian45[m]
        other MeB staff should though... [mayhem](https://matrix.to/#/@mayhem:chatbrainz.org) what say ye to creating a private group in discourse for initial discussions of this stuff? (if favorable, directions for how are a couple messages before this)
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      • julian45[m]
        * (at least some) other MeB, * though... [@mayhem, * mayhem:chatbrainz.org](https://matrix.to/#/@mayhem:chatbrainz.org) what
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      • Evelynne[m]
        Or I should invite you all to our zulip https://mixxx.zulipchat.com/ where we can have a DM with multiple people
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      • julian45[m]
        good question! mayhem should also consider that as an option
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      • Jade[m]
        More accounts! Fun!
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      • Evelynne[m]
        It's not about big secrets but drafts can start living on their own, and this public channel can/will be indexed by search engines / AI ....