[bookbrainz-utils] 14dependabot[bot] opened pull request #56 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/importer/validator-13.15.20): chore(deps): bump validator from 13.9.0 to 13.15.20 in /importer https://github.com/metabrainz/bookbrainz-utils/pu…
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[bookbrainz-site] 14dependabot[bot] opened pull request #1190 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/validator-13.15.20): chore(deps): bump validator from 13.7.0 to 13.15.20 https://github.com/metabrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…
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[bookbrainz-data-js] 14dependabot[bot] opened pull request #326 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/validator-13.15.20): chore(deps): bump validator from 13.12.0 to 13.15.20 https://github.com/metabrainz/bookbrainz-data-js/…
MBS-9045: Pending removal from series not marked as pending (span.mp)
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BrainzBot
MBS-2534: Modbot deletes artists without checking for pending edits to tracklist artist credits.
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BrainzBot
MBS-8549: Add "Romanized" to locale choices for Aliases
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mayhem[m]
including a bug from 11 years ago. :)
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reosarevok[m]
2534 is marked as a dupe of a fixed bug afaict
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reosarevok[m]
The romanized thing would involve changing the entire way we do aliases, since we use Unicode locales rn. We generally use English as a Latin default in MB (for example to show a primary alias if no language with an alias fits better)
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reosarevok[m]
The series bit I haven't looked at, I see chirlu suggested wontfix at some point but it might be worth reviewing since we now have icons to show rels being edited
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mayhem[m]
<reosarevok[m]> "2534 is marked as a dupe of a..." <- can you close it if it is a dupe?
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reosarevok[m]
It is closed? :)
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reosarevok[m]
Since 2011
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mayhem[m]
oh sorry.
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reosarevok[m]
np - if there's a bug they've hit, then maybe there's something else, they should add a ticket if relevant :)
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mayhem[m]
ok, will pass on that info.
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mayhem[m]
zas: I came down with the obligatory post gsoc summit cold and couldn't focus on much. but then I thought about the cover art cache (the IA is having more issues). I tasked copilot to make a nginx config that did as I described to you originally.
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mayhem[m]
in the end, the conclusion was, like you suspected: nginx's cache mechanism is not intended to be used how I want to use it. so we created a python backend that handles the redirects accordingly: https://github.com/metabrainz/cover-art-cache/tre…
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mayhem[m] goes to do some cleanup
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mayhem[m]
bitmap: you too, please. not sure if this caching strategy is acceptable or not.
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bitmap[m]
mayhem: I'll have a look, can you remind me which services you plan to use the cache with?
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mayhem[m]
uh oh. here comes trouble. I mean Evelynne . welcome!
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reosarevok[m]
bitmap: where would you put stuff like
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reosarevok[m]
<td>... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/itcjHpGkSZLWhpyiFZUVDlIs>)
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Evelynne[m]
Thanks, I thought: let's join
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mayhem[m]
bitmap[m]: this is for external users. let say someone is unhappy with how the IA is working currently. the idea is have them host a cache themselves.
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reosarevok[m]
root/cdtoc/components/whatever?
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mayhem[m]
so they can setup "mycoverartcach.org" and it will make requests to coverartarchive.org and instread of redirecting, it actually caches the images.
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mayhem[m]
its not intended for our own use.
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bitmap[m]
gotcha, I assumed it was for something local, just wasn't sure how general it was intended to be
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bitmap[m]
reosarevok: root/release/components/ maybe?
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Evelynne[m]
A small introduction:... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/ypnxRftRXyAxEvezHSYKGbWD>)
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mayhem[m]
@room This is whom I was speaking about yesterday during the team meeting.
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Evelynne[m]
ah owkee ... I was already introduced :-)
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puppeht[m]
bro
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t0qd[m]
the discord ping of death
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aquatix[m] is awake again
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aquatix[m]
pinging 1337 users (which is a mighty fine number btw :) )
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Jade[m]
Oh it bridged the room ping? Haha
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madiator2011[m]
yup you did
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x86pup[m]
woof
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mayhem[m]
lol, bad idea, I guess. :)
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monkey[m]
Evelynne: You even get a fanfare to accompany the introduction. Welcome!
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aquatix[m]
^_^
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monkey[m] has very happily used Mixxx in the past
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Evelynne[m]
TY!
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mayhem[m]
that puts a smile on my face
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Evelynne[m]
monkey can you define past?
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monkey[m]
The past is a human concept that... oh, never mind :)
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monkey[m]
It's been a couple of years, but I used it on and off since about 10 years ago
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Evelynne[m]
Did you choose for other software or DJing less at the moment?
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morganicz[m]
bruh
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monkey[m]
Not DJing at all, even :) If I come back to it I'll most likely start again with Mixxx
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nuibance[m]
Bruh
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yojimbo[m]
why?
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yojimbo[m]
are you stupid?
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reosarevok[m]
I love when the Discord users wake up and start being rude :)
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reosarevok[m]
Yes, sometimes you'll get pinged by announcements in the room by the foundation head. Probably not everyone in Discord should be in the code-oriented #metabrainz room - aerozol, that something you can change for all the people who don't care about this kind of thing?
probably many of the people who were pinged didn't show up to this meeting
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reosarevok[m]
I mean, the meeting is in this channel :)
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reosarevok[m]
But most people in this channel from discord should probably only be in the musicbrainz one
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reosarevok[m]
(And if the room call in matrix pings the whole discord and not just this room, something needs to be fixed in the connection)
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lazybookwyrm[m]
There's no such thing as being in a channel in Discord unless you set up roles to hide a channel from people
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reosarevok[m]
So then the room call in matrix should not ping discord at all
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lazybookwyrm[m]
Here pings everyone that's a member of the Discord server that has Discord open
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lazybookwyrm[m]
I think it could be fixed by just removing here pinging permissions from the bridging bot
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reosarevok[m]
It's "room" on our side, so yeah, something lost in bridging
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reosarevok[m]
Who can change that? lucifer? aerozol @aerozol:matrix.org?
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reosarevok[m]
(Still not sure why people react to a notification like someone punched their mom, but that's a different issue)
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Jade[m]
IIRC discord bridged work as webhooks, you can't change their permissions
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Jade[m]
The discord servers I'm in generally have roles for the topics you're interested in that people choose in the setup screen, but I don't think that can really. match up to matrix (at least without changes in the bridges
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lucifer[m]
i think there is a permission for it and i just disabled it for the matrix bridge bot. but the only way to test it is another room ping.
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lucifer[m]
fyi only disabled it for the #metabrainz channel.
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mayhem[m]
I haven't heard "bruh" enough today. shall I ping? or shall we let this happen naturally?
Evelynne: reosarevok bitmap lucifer are the pros for sure. I might also be able to help.
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bitmap[m]
hey, I can certainly help with any MB schema related things
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reosarevok[m]
BPM should be a recording attribute fwiw
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reosarevok[m]
We just haven't implemented those for years 😅
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mayhem[m]
reosarevok: that bring a good question. this new BPM project where we solicit songs to be marked up by "tempo section" and submitted to us.... should that live in MB or LB? per or python? personally, I think LB is the right place -- what do you think?
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bitmap[m]
yeah, we have a recording_attribute table already, just no UI is implemented for it yet 🙈
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mayhem[m]
s/per/perl/
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Evelynne[m]
reosarevok: bitmap lucifer mayhem... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/shjbSYJnkcGoKTxjuyasAuYI>)
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mayhem[m]
"our track_id is an integer -- MBID is text" -- you might be referring to row ids -- which are internal to our DB. we've only ever guaranteed for MBIDs to be stable.
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mayhem[m]
"do you want to start with 0 or 1 ?" always 0.
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reosarevok[m]
mayhem[m]: Bruh.
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reosarevok[m]
reosarevok[m]: I think the id was on their side
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reosarevok[m]
reosarevok[m]: (But I just wanted to say bruh)
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Evelynne[m]
what's the prefered delimiter? ; ?
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mayhem[m]
Evelynne[m]: what is being delimited?
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Evelynne[m]
the resulting values of the sections in a track eg 72.00;69.00;72.00;144.00
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Evelynne[m]
* the resulting BPM values of
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mayhem[m]
we should transmit data in JSON and then use an array of floats for the data.
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Evelynne[m]
we use a float for BPM ...
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Jade[m]
<Evelynne[m]> "the resulting values of the..." <- Surely just flat BPM values per section isn't correct?
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Jade[m]
BPM can be changed gradually by automation
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Jade[m]
There probably needs to be some form of interpolation or curve possible
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Jade[m]
Jade[m]: Or even in notated music, one song I used to play was annotated 'gradually faster'
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mayhem[m]
Jade[m]: oh. very interesting observation. nice can of worms, really.
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mayhem[m]
but our goal so far has been to handle cases like "bohemian rhapsody" which has a lot of distinct sections of tempo.
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mayhem[m]
I wonder how many tracks have an evolving tempo as you suggest; is this a use case worth implementing?
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Jade[m]
mayhem[m]: It's impossible to say, but I guess it wouldn't be massively less than the amount that have multiple different tempos in general
