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      • _BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok opened pull request #3662 (03master…MBS-14187): MBS-14187: Don't block runeberg.org for non-works https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-14187: Don't block runeberg.org for non-work entities https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-14187
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      • mayhem[m]
        lucifer: for the tempo/mixxx integration, we want an endpoint that allows fetching of tempo for one or more recordings, but also up to 1,000 recordings and to submit one or more tempo markups.
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      • mayhem[m]
        normally that would be GET/POST duo, but we need POST to do a 1,000 item GET function.
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      • mayhem[m]
        how can we express this in a RESTy way?
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      • mayhem[m]
        GET/POST and PUT? but that is inconsistent with the rest of the API.
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      • lucifer[m]
        mayhem: probably do two different POST endpoints
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      • lucifer[m]
        one for fetching and one for submissions.
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      • mayhem[m]
        but what to call it and still be RESTy?
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      • mayhem[m]
        tacking on a /submit for the submission is not document centric/
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      • mayhem[m]
        s///\/
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      • mayhem[m]
        s///
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      • lucifer[m]
        the POST for retrieving multiple items could /list
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      • lucifer[m]
        * items could be /list
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      • mayhem[m]
        yea, I dont see a lot of great alternatives.
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      • lucifer[m]
        or /search
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      • mayhem[m]
        /list or /batch
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      • lucifer[m]
        acc. to my understanding, for rest-ful GET/POST/PUT etc. concern one item. so the mutiple item listing is the separate one here.
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      • mayhem[m]
        agreed, we only need it because URL length limitations.
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      • lucifer[m]
        yup makes sense
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      • lucifer[m]
        single item retrieval/creation/update happen on the entity's GET/POST/PUT and the POST /entity/{list,batch,etc.} for multiple item retrieval. should be fine to call this RESTy.
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      • aerozol[m]
        Hey mayhem, any idea of monkey's plans today? I'm meeting with him tonight/tomorrow morning but if he's going to be on soon anyway I might wait up
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      • lucifer[m]
        fwiw, we don't use PUT etc. in LB just POST for multiple different URLs for.
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      • mayhem[m]
        I have no idea, sorry. I've not gone into the office this month....
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      • mayhem[m]
        lucifer[m]: yes, it felt out of place.
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      • aerozol[m]
        All good, thanks! See ya 'tomorrow' monkey!
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      • lucifer[m]
        if these endpoints are going on LB/MB, i would suggest to avoid PUT just for consistency with rest of the API.
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      • mayhem[m]
        lucifer[m]: done.
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      • monkey[m]
        aerozol[m]: See you in the morning your time!
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      • aerozol[m]
        Oh hey! If you're up-up then it would be convenient to meet now or soon instead :)
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      • monkey[m]
        <mayhem[m]> "monkey: is this one for you..." <- yep
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      • rayyan_seliya[m]
        <rayyan_seliya[m]> "Screenshot 2025-10-30 020446.png" <- Hey monkey: 👀!
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      • monkey[m]
        Will look when I have some time :)
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      • rayyan_seliya[m]
        monkey[m]: No worries ...
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      • monkey[m]
        Overall looks quite good rayyan_seliya but haven't looked into it more. Wanna open a PR so I can put it on test?
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      • rayyan_seliya[m]
        monkey[m]: Sure then after some little tweaks .. will open it ..
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      • rayyan_seliya[m]
        Have to take care some edge cases of missing isbn olid .. etc cases ..
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      • Evelynne[m]
        outsidecontext: I tested picard with stemfiles... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/pUxBKohfENkcbmYfPECwvYRU>)
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      • Evelynne[m]
        * outsidecontext: I tested picard with stemfiles... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/VUYjDafRSWPykOaMOdBpKVCA>)
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      • Jade[m]
        Some artists do release stems to high tier supporters btw, it's just very rare and I've never seen them generally available
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      • julian45[m]
        <Jade[m]> "Some artists do release stems to..." <- it depends on the artist & scene, and sometimes the occasion; for example, a semiannual contest (posting festival?) run by niconico called [the vocaloid collection](https://vocaloid-collection.jp/) will work with some artists each contest to make stems available of popular songs for the express purpose of making remixes to be posted in the remix category of the contest.
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      • julian45[m]
        also in vocaloid, one of my favorite producers in the english-speaking scene, jamie paige, [publicly posts stems, multitracks, and even the synth software project files](https://jamies.page/stems) for basically all of her work, if not all of it outright
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      • julian45[m]
        and she also releases essentially all of her music under CC BY-NC-SA; there are only a handful of her releases that are otherwise (for example, a recent corporate collab with the company that makes hatsune miku)
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      • Jade[m]
        On that's the person that made BIRDBRAIN! Nice :3
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      • LupinIII
        I read it as "BirdBrainz" and was like "oh is there a birding brainz project now? 🤔