#metabrainz

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      • monkey
        No strong objections, i think it's sensible.
      • 2021-09-27 27006, 2021

      • monkey
        Returning a 403 makes more sense to me
      • 2021-09-27 27013, 2021

      • reosarevok
        Not sure if we do that at all yet, but we have talk of it at least
      • 2021-09-27 27013, 2021

      • CatQuest
        does it depend on wich place they are spamming?
      • 2021-09-27 27022, 2021

      • CatQuest
        eg listen sapmmers or music spammers or book spammers
      • 2021-09-27 27027, 2021

      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: all of it is MB based rn, so probably not
      • 2021-09-27 27033, 2021

      • reosarevok
        (as in, based on MB accounts)
      • 2021-09-27 27037, 2021

      • CatQuest
        some are listenbrainz
      • 2021-09-27 27043, 2021

      • bitmap
        a new account flags sounds sensible to me
      • 2021-09-27 27003, 2021

      • reosarevok
        I guess if someone is only spamming on one non-MB site but acting normally on MB then we should have a more calm talk, but that seems unlikely :)
      • 2021-09-27 27033, 2021

      • Freso
        Anyway. Seems like there is general agreement on it not being completely far-fetched.
      • 2021-09-27 27047, 2021

      • ruaok nods
      • 2021-09-27 27048, 2021

      • Freso
        The ticket is open for implementation discussion/questions/comments. :)
      • 2021-09-27 27005, 2021

      • Freso
        Alright, last item!
      • 2021-09-27 27007, 2021

      • Freso
        cat: chocolate
      • 2021-09-27 27009, 2021

      • yvanzo
        Will do
      • 2021-09-27 27011, 2021

      • CatQuest
        :D
      • 2021-09-27 27016, 2021

      • CatQuest
        so I got an idea: what if we, before the summit, all send some chocolate to barcelona, and then ruaok and monkey all create fair piles to everyone and sent it back to us! (poss together with t-shirts/whatever surprise it was?)
      • 2021-09-27 27017, 2021

      • CatQuest
        good/bad idea? :​D
      • 2021-09-27 27026, 2021

      • ruaok
        bad.
      • 2021-09-27 27033, 2021

      • CatQuest
        oh :(
      • 2021-09-27 27037, 2021

      • reosarevok
        I guess "too much effort", mostly :p
      • 2021-09-27 27040, 2021

      • ruaok
        a shipping nightmare
      • 2021-09-27 27041, 2021

      • CatQuest
        aw
      • 2021-09-27 27044, 2021

      • monkey
        We're not going to handle the t-shirt shipping logistics, and that was really helpful last year
      • 2021-09-27 27046, 2021

      • Freso
        I don’t think I’d be able to manage that. :\
      • 2021-09-27 27047, 2021

      • ruaok
        I will have no part of that.
      • 2021-09-27 27005, 2021

      • CatQuest
        ok ok, it was jsut an idea
      • 2021-09-27 27011, 2021

      • CatQuest
        finish then
      • 2021-09-27 27013, 2021

      • reosarevok
        If something, then having some sort of "each one gets assigned one other person to send chocolate to" would be more manageable
      • 2021-09-27 27021, 2021

      • reosarevok
        Although I dunno how easy it is to ship it :)
      • 2021-09-27 27031, 2021

      • reosarevok
        Might be it all just melts
      • 2021-09-27 27042, 2021

      • CatQuest
        honestly it's just becasue i want to taste that damn mapelsyrup canadian chocolate again :P
      • 2021-09-27 27047, 2021

      • monkey
        Not sure chocolate travels that well unrefrigerated, to be honest
      • 2021-09-27 27051, 2021

      • CatQuest
        not here. it will rain away :D
      • 2021-09-27 27001, 2021

      • CatQuest
        honestly it's usually fine
      • 2021-09-27 27003, 2021

      • ruaok
        too hot in many places still to ship chocolate
      • 2021-09-27 27018, 2021

      • Freso
        I think the idea is a no-go. Sorry CatQuest. :\
      • 2021-09-27 27034, 2021

      • Freso
        Which, I think, also (chocolate?) wraps up this meeting!
      • 2021-09-27 27035, 2021

      • CatQuest
        yea I already got that freso ¬__¬
      • 2021-09-27 27050, 2021

      • CatQuest
        aw well
      • 2021-09-27 27009, 2021

      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok merged pull request #2268 (03master…MBS-11968): MBS-11968: Allow VIAF, DNB, LoC links for series https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
      • 2021-09-27 27011, 2021

      • Freso
        Thank you all for your time. Stay hydrated, don’t eat _too_ much chocolate, and stay safe!
      • 2021-09-27 27014, 2021

      • Freso
        </BANG>
      • 2021-09-27 27017, 2021

      • CatQuest
        there should be some "we will distribute chocolate to your selected group of people" type service
      • 2021-09-27 27030, 2021

      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] 14reosarevok merged pull request #2260 (03master…MBS-11957): MBS-11957: Clean up twitch.com to twitch.tv https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
      • 2021-09-27 27045, 2021

      • yvanzo
        Freso: I think the spammer flag could be complementary with spam reports designed to work with SpamBrainz, I will check that.
      • 2021-09-27 27051, 2021

      • yvanzo
        Thanks everyone!
      • 2021-09-27 27001, 2021

      • monkey
        It's called a CDN, isn't it? Chocolate Delivery network? :p
      • 2021-09-27 27023, 2021

      • CatQuest
        :D
      • 2021-09-27 27004, 2021

      • monkey
        Thanks Freso :)
      • 2021-09-27 27019, 2021

      • lucifer
        tandy[m]: the sitewide api endpoints changed the format of json returned by them. the sitewide had not been calculated for over a year so we thought no one used it. sorry. i think you'll need to update the client code.
      • 2021-09-27 27027, 2021

      • tandy[m]
        lucifer: thats no problem, i maintain the nim bindings for the listenbrainz api and i dont actually interact with the json, just return it :)
      • 2021-09-27 27011, 2021

      • tandy[m]
        if it gets calculated again it should work right?
      • 2021-09-27 27039, 2021

      • reosarevok
        bitmap: what do you think about https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/… then? IIRC you weren't too convinced about it making old edits extra borked
      • 2021-09-27 27052, 2021

      • reosarevok
        Wonder if we have a good way of detecting those and not showing the borked info
      • 2021-09-27 27030, 2021

      • reosarevok
      • 2021-09-27 27035, 2021

      • reosarevok
        (yvanzo's URL stuff)
      • 2021-09-27 27039, 2021

      • lucifer
        tandy[m]: i am not sure what caused the error in your CI. the endpoints should still be working but the data they return might not be up to date or useful.
      • 2021-09-27 27008, 2021

      • tandy[m]
      • 2021-09-27 27011, 2021

      • tandy[m]
        should this produce any results?
      • 2021-09-27 27056, 2021

      • lucifer
        currently, its returning 204 as expected. once we trigger stats generation, it should return actual stats.
      • 2021-09-27 27022, 2021

      • bitmap
        reosarevok: well, I'd like to avoid merging something that makes those edits even more broken -- ideally we'd add back the old relationship types and fix the IDs in those older edits
      • 2021-09-27 27008, 2021

      • tandy[m]
        lucifer: oh yep, thatd be why the CI fails, tests raise an exception if the response isn't 200
      • 2021-09-27 27009, 2021

      • bitmap
        or for now we can have a list of type IDs that were re-used and avoid loading those if the edit is pre-ngs
      • 2021-09-27 27048, 2021

      • lucifer
        makes sense. fwiw, 204 is documented in LB docs if there are currently no stats. for example, a new user might not have stats as soon as they create an account. or say a user didn't listen anything in the last week.
      • 2021-09-27 27057, 2021

      • lucifer
        ruaok: one quick question, should i delete the test dump and reuqest a usual dump import? otherwise stats and other stuff won't run tommorrow.
      • 2021-09-27 27003, 2021

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      • lucifer
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      • riksucks
        Damn I never thought the issue would be this big
      • 2021-09-27 27034, 2021

      • riksucks
        I read on hackernews once that there exists some standard that always calls for writing version tags as 0.x.* or something
      • 2021-09-27 27021, 2021

      • lucifer
        you probably mean semver
      • 2021-09-27 27001, 2021

      • riksucks
        Probably, but what struck me as odd was that they wanted all your versions to start with 0
      • 2021-09-27 27027, 2021

      • riksucks
        And not only this, they had a table in the home page showing the open source repos already adhering to the standard
      • 2021-09-27 27028, 2021

      • lucifer
        that's in development versions iirc.
      • 2021-09-27 27050, 2021

      • lucifer
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      • riksucks
        I see, they wanted major releases to be tagged such way too, which I found very odd
      • 2021-09-27 27016, 2021

      • riksucks
        I see
      • 2021-09-27 27032, 2021

      • riksucks
        Lemme look for the link, if I can find it for you
      • 2021-09-27 27045, 2021

      • riksucks
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      • riksucks
        Also people's reaction to it was kind of interesting
      • 2021-09-27 27004, 2021

      • riksucks
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      • kepstin
        you realize that's a parody/joke, right? :)
      • 2021-09-27 27051, 2021

      • kepstin
        on the other hand, it's kind of, well, all too realistic; a lot of projects end up getting used and stabilizing while still keeping the 0.x version numbers
      • 2021-09-27 27006, 2021

      • riksucks
        At first I thought it was a joke, but then it had a list of repos at their home page. So I thought maybe it's serious?
      • 2021-09-27 27014, 2021

      • riksucks
        I didn't know that actually
      • 2021-09-27 27046, 2021

      • kepstin
        they're basically calling out projects that have stuck with version numbers starting with 0 for a long time.
      • 2021-09-27 27049, 2021

      • kepstin
        The whole site is written in a sarcastic tone, and the original publish date is April 1. it's not something to take seriously.
      • 2021-09-27 27057, 2021

      • riksucks
        Lmao I see
      • 2021-09-27 27013, 2021

      • kepstin
        and also right on their About page: "ZeroVer is satire, please do not use it."
      • 2021-09-27 27027, 2021

      • riksucks
        Yeah i just checked rn lmao
      • 2021-09-27 27057, 2021

      • riksucks
        This was embarrassing lmao
      • 2021-09-27 27012, 2021

      • BrainzGit
        [bookbrainz-site] 14dependabot[bot] opened pull request #702 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/elastic/elasticsearch-7.15.0): chore(deps): bump @elastic/elasticsearch from 5.6.22 to 7.15.0 https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…
      • 2021-09-27 27015, 2021

      • BrainzGit
        [bookbrainz-site] 14dependabot[bot] closed pull request #695 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/elastic/elasticsearch-7.14.1): chore(deps): bump @elastic/elasticsearch from 5.6.22 to 7.14.1 https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…
      • 2021-09-27 27002, 2021

      • BrainzGit
        [bookbrainz-site] 14dependabot[bot] opened pull request #703 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/eslint-plugin-react-7.26.0): chore(deps-dev): bump eslint-plugin-react from 7.21.5 to 7.26.0 https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…
      • 2021-09-27 27005, 2021

      • BrainzGit
        [bookbrainz-site] 14dependabot[bot] closed pull request #700 (03master…dependabot/npm_and_yarn/eslint-plugin-react-7.25.3): chore(deps-dev): bump eslint-plugin-react from 7.21.5 to 7.25.3 https://github.com/bookbrainz/bookbrainz-site/pul…
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      • reosarevok
        bitmap: I guess the easiest way (but maybe overkill) is not load those for any pre-NGS edits?
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      • ruaok
        sure looks like it. :)
      • 2021-09-27 27008, 2021

      • ruaok
        lucifer: yes, delete dump and run the usual proces
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