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aerozol
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4:27 AM
akshaaatt
Thanks for the share aerozol! This looks great.
2022-03-28 08743, 2022
4:31 AM
aerozol
#goals
2022-03-28 08737, 2022
4:32 AM
aerozol
They aim to meet web accessibility guidelines - doesn't look good for CatQuest's wishes for small font sizes :(
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4:32 AM
aerozol
But let's see
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akshaaatt
Haha yuss!
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6:20 AM
reosarevok
akshaaatt: I'll take a quick check for functionality and maybe bitmap can check the bootstrap one last time later today
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6:20 AM
reosarevok
yvanzo: anything for docker this release?
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akshaaatt
Thanks a lot reosarevok!
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7:50 AM
CatQuest
aerozol: it's not so much the giant fonts, but the giantfonts in combination with lots of whitespace
2022-03-28 08704, 2022
7:51 AM
CatQuest
(had to zoom out like 3 times on that site btw)
2022-03-28 08747, 2022
7:52 AM
aerozol
I hear you! But that's what the nz govt is recommending if you want your site to be accessible (e.g. readable/parsable by disabled people)
2022-03-28 08702, 2022
7:53 AM
aerozol
note: I'm not saying MB should look like that, it's just interesting to note
2022-03-28 08730, 2022
7:53 AM
aerozol
MB is much more content heavy so we wouldn't try look similar I don't think
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8:33 AM
CatQuest
oh don't get my wrong, I definitely thing we need to make things usable for disabled people
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8:33 AM
CatQuest
especially screen readers etc
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8:38 AM
mayhem
moooooin!
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aerozol
moin moin!
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9:25 AM
reosarevok
zas, atj: has something changed with how we keep connections open recently?
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9:25 AM
reosarevok
2022-03-28 08748, 2022
9:25 AM
reosarevok
Earlier got the same from floyd
2022-03-28 08756, 2022
9:25 AM
reosarevok
I didn't use to get this at all unless my net went down
2022-03-28 08724, 2022
9:26 AM
reosarevok
(just wondering if it's somehow connected to why sir loses connection to rabbitmq)
2022-03-28 08701, 2022
9:28 AM
zas
I don't think, is the problem always with hip?
2022-03-28 08727, 2022
9:28 AM
reosarevok
No, earlier was floyd, as I said
2022-03-28 08746, 2022
9:28 AM
reosarevok
I dunno, it might just be I haven't paid enough attention earlier :)
2022-03-28 08707, 2022
9:29 AM
reosarevok
And it just caught my eye because of that pink <-> clash thing
2022-03-28 08702, 2022
9:30 AM
zas
That's weird, I'll proceed to few network checks
2022-03-28 08719, 2022
9:31 AM
alastairp
morning
2022-03-28 08706, 2022
9:33 AM
reosarevok
yvanzo: I see there's something new about ts in docker, should this be part of the release docs?
2022-03-28 08717, 2022
9:33 AM
reosarevok
I'll push the update commit for now
2022-03-28 08706, 2022
9:34 AM
reosarevok
I also saved a basic draft
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9:34 AM
zas
reosarevok: this timeout is on your ssh connection?
2022-03-28 08744, 2022
9:34 AM
reosarevok
Yes
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9:35 AM
reosarevok
So maybe it's just something my side or something, just wanted to make sure nothing weird happened :)
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9:40 AM
zas
reosarevok: was it an active session? I mean did the timeout appeared after a while without activity?
2022-03-28 08702, 2022
9:41 AM
reosarevok
Yes
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9:41 AM
reosarevok
A while without activity, I mean
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9:43 AM
yvanzo
reosarevok: just a patch for MBS development, I will edit the release notes
2022-03-28 08728, 2022
9:43 AM
reosarevok
Thanks!
2022-03-28 08729, 2022
9:46 AM
zas
reosarevok: I see nothing abnormal in logs, do you have ServerAliveInterval set in your ssh config?
2022-03-28 08725, 2022
9:47 AM
reosarevok
... I do, 60. I assume that's it then? Maybe the generate ssh config script only added this recently or maybe I only noticed it recently but eh, sorry
2022-03-28 08732, 2022
9:47 AM
reosarevok
Well, still a mystery re: sir and rmq then
2022-03-28 08758, 2022
9:47 AM
reosarevok
yvanzo: dunno if you saw from telegram but it happened again yesterday
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9:48 AM
zas
reosarevok: set it to 0 (or remove it as it is the default)
2022-03-28 08704, 2022
9:49 AM
zas
about rmq / sir that's another problem
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9:49 AM
reosarevok
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9:51 AM
yvanzo
reosarevok: added a note to release notes
2022-03-28 08754, 2022
9:55 AM
yvanzo
reosarevok: Not really, what is the issue with it?
2022-03-28 08730, 2022
9:56 AM
reosarevok
That sir does seem to lose connection with rabbitmq, not notice it somehow, and keep trying to connect
2022-03-28 08702, 2022
9:57 AM
yvanzo
How is it linked to this option?
2022-03-28 08708, 2022
9:57 AM
reosarevok
Oooh
2022-03-28 08719, 2022
9:57 AM
reosarevok
I thought you meant about the sir thing
2022-03-28 08721, 2022
9:57 AM
reosarevok
Sorry
2022-03-28 08751, 2022
9:57 AM
reosarevok
No problem as such re: 60, I just don't know if there's a benefit on making the user need to reconnect after a while rather than keeping them in
2022-03-28 08753, 2022
9:57 AM
yvanzo
I will check sir later on.
2022-03-28 08755, 2022
9:57 AM
reosarevok
So mostly just wondering why
2022-03-28 08708, 2022
9:58 AM
reosarevok
The sir thing was just the same unexpectedly closed connection bit :)
2022-03-28 08731, 2022
9:58 AM
reosarevok
Wondering since zas says default is 0, anyway, so I assumed there was a reason to deviate :)
2022-03-28 08705, 2022
9:59 AM
reosarevok
Saved a blog draft, btw :)
2022-03-28 08724, 2022
9:59 AM
yvanzo
I guess it is to keep scripts moving on if a server is not responsive.
2022-03-28 08725, 2022
9:59 AM
Ansh
alastairp monkey I’ve updated my GSoC application. Please have a look at it. I’d love to get your feedback.
2022-03-28 08747, 2022
9:59 AM
Ansh
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10:00 AM
yvanzo
This option is supposed to help with low connectivity issues.
2022-03-28 08709, 2022
10:01 AM
reosarevok
yvanzo: I guess the tag is still meant to be only 'Upgrade MusicBrainz Server.' then?
2022-03-28 08717, 2022
10:01 AM
reosarevok
For docker
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10:08 AM
zas
about sir/rmq issue, I checked logs of rabbitmq, but I don't see anything special when it happened last time
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10:09 AM
reosarevok
zas: yeah, atj said he checked and rabbitmq said it was sir not connecting, sir said it was rabbitmq
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10:10 AM
zas
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10:13 AM
atj
reosarevok: I thought you said that? :)
2022-03-28 08745, 2022
10:13 AM
atj
I checked the system logs at the time it happened and didn't find anything relevant
2022-03-28 08720, 2022
10:14 AM
atj
my thoughts was that it could be a network resource related issue
2022-03-28 08728, 2022
10:14 AM
reosarevok
Huh. Iirc you told me there was something like that. Am I going nuts? Maybe!
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10:15 AM
zas
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10:16 AM
zas
shows a bunch of peaks in network & disk I/O around the time it happened
2022-03-28 08743, 2022
10:16 AM
zas
it is possible the machine was slowed down enough to lead to timeouts, but nothing certain at this point
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10:18 AM
zas
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10:19 AM
atj
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10:19 AM
zas
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10:19 AM
zas
is the corresponding activity on pink
2022-03-28 08759, 2022
10:20 AM
lucifer
hi! yes, i saw `client closed connection unexpectedly` in the rmq logs at that time. usually that happens (in my experience from similar issues in LB) when some error went unhandled on client side.
2022-03-28 08700, 2022
10:21 AM
zas
why is clash having so high traffic on external interface
2022-03-28 08759, 2022
10:21 AM
lucifer
zas, maybe micahel? it sends GBs worth of stats daily. but unsure if its external or internal interface.
2022-03-28 08726, 2022
10:22 AM
zas
it was data out of clash, backups?
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10:22 AM
atj
do we have a graph that shows exactly when the issue started (from an application perspective), so we can see work out what is cause vs. consequence?
2022-03-28 08748, 2022
10:22 AM
lucifer
oh no idea then. michael data should have been incoming.
2022-03-28 08735, 2022
10:23 AM
zas
backups on 27th on clash ended at 3UTC, so that's not it
2022-03-28 08703, 2022
10:24 AM
reosarevok
atj: ooooh, sorry then! sorry lucifer for mixing you up too :D
2022-03-28 08726, 2022
10:24 AM
zas
so what is creating this traffic on both interfaces on clash between 4:25UTC and 5:27UTC?
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10:24 AM
zas
ah sorry that's IN on eth0
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10:25 AM
lucifer
eth0 is external and eth1 internal? or vice versa
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10:25 AM
zas
I think the problem lies here, huge network traffic prolly slowing down I/O, leading to timeouts
2022-03-28 08713, 2022
10:26 AM
zas
eth0 is external
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10:26 AM
atj
zas: link me the graph you're looking at please
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10:26 AM
zas
but we have traffic on pink too, starting few mins later, and in the reverse direction
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10:26 AM
atj
because I'm looking at clash and I don't see it :(
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10:27 AM
zas
you don't see what?
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10:27 AM
zas
