But also a reason why I in turn like GSoC so much. Selection based on past OSS contributions is such a brilliant idea
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Pratha-Fish
it also removes most biases from the interview process, since the selection is based on the applicants performance specifically inside your organization
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skelly37
True that, especially after removing the student-status requirement GSoC is the best opportunity to gain any experience for graduates
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skelly37
Bascially, one just need to know the stack and get in touch with the org early
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Pratha-Fish
yep that's what it seems like so far. Also I think culture fit, etc takes care of itself through the very long nature of the selection process
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yellowhatpro
<akshaaatt> "yellowhatpro: definitely, you..." <- okii then I will be preparing a mock design asap ヾ(•ω•`)o
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skelly37
outsidecontext, zas: Hello, could we start already? I have electricity problems, so I can be up for as long as my laptop and phone batteries will last
2022-07-14 19529, 2022
skelly37
The problems started like 20minutes ago, my luck in a nutshell haha
2022-07-14 19508, 2022
lucifer
mayhem: i'll recheck it. the container is not running master atm but that has only been the case since yesterday and jams have been broken for a week.
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zas
I'm around
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mayhem
I've been tracking that down, but pylb 0.5.1 keeps getting installed and I have no idea why...
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lucifer
oh that's because building from source fails so pip fall backs to latest version from pypi.
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lucifer
that's the issue i faced last time and why we need a pypi release.
2022-07-14 19519, 2022
lucifer
but we could also change how pylb is versioned and fix building from source.
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mayhem
alastairp and I did just that.
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mayhem
it should build from source now.
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mayhem
maybe something else broke now.
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alastairp
hmm, that's weird
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alastairp
outsidecontext: skelly37: zas fyi we're having an LB meeting now too
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skelly37
understandable
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mayhem
aight. lets get this meeting started.
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alastairp
lucifer: is this error reproduceable by building current master?
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mayhem
alastairp: yes.
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alastairp
ok
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lucifer
i tried installing `git+https://github.com/metabrainz/pylistenbrainz.git@v0.5.2#egg=pylistenbrainz` in isolation and it works
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mayhem
I did too.
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zas
outsidecontext isn't there anyway, let's decide what to do when he shows up
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outsidecontext is here
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lucifer
so some other issue probably.
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mayhem
so, lets talk about LB planning for a few minutes.
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alastairp
sure
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mayhem
first off, I'm not going to be around a whole lot in August. Starting July 27th.
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lucifer
monkey doesn't seem to be around.
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alastairp
I've also got conference last week of july + holidays first week of august
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mayhem
my point being, our schedules are going to be pretty fragmented.
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outsidecontext
skelly37, zas: I guess we should move, because two meetings in parallel won't work
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lucifer
makes sense
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lucifer
i'll be around for rest of july and august.
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mayhem
and I think we ought to not have another sprint before sept or even later sept.
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alastairp
I've been mostly doing CB maint, SoC work, and finishing off AB dumps the last month or so, so not much on LB either
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lucifer
how about near/during summit then?
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alastairp
monkey and I have this pending react sprint too, so there is something for us to work on together if we are around/have time
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mayhem
I think some hacking time around the summit could be nice.
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skelly37
outsidecontext: the same hour but tomorrow?
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alastairp
I wouldn't mind trying to do something in sept if possible
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alastairp
especially if that is something like oauth (so that we can talk about results at the summit)
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mayhem
the one thing that I feel I need to do soon is to have some page where users can see the playlists we generate for them.
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outsidecontext
skelly37: would do for me, zas?
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mayhem
yes, I think oauth would be a good thing to plan at the summit. and then to execute right after -- so that we all know what needs doing.
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zas
skelly37, outsidecontext : I can't tomorrow at this time, what about Monday one hour before usual meeting?
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skelly37
works for me
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lucifer
do you mean a page having text description of playlists ?
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outsidecontext
Monday evening is bad for me
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lucifer
+1 on oauth
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mayhem
lucifer: more like a page that shows off daily jams and other playlists that will be generated soon.
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alastairp
ok, looks like doing oauth at summit + after is a better idea than before + at summit
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mayhem
right now these playlists are too hidden in the collaborative playlists.
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skelly37
zas: Are you off the whole tomorrow's afternoon?
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lucifer
i see, sounds good.
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outsidecontext
zas, skelly37: no, actually one hour earlier on next Monday would be fine, I can manage that.
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alastairp
mayhem: so a bit more styalised than the current recommendations tab?
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skelly37
nevermind then
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alastairp
stylised
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outsidecontext
Saturday or Sunday evening would also do for me. Tomorrow afternoon not
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skelly37
weekend is okay for me too
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mayhem
I hadn't really thought about it, yet, but those pages could be repurposed.
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zas
outsidecontext, skelly37: then Saturday same time?
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skelly37
fine
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mayhem
a new tab for "created just for you" would be nice.
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outsidecontext
zas: +1
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zas
ok :)
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alastairp
do we have some other playlist things to do? (server-side automatic write to spotify, finishing those tests of mine, ...?)
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alastairp
perhaps this is a mini-playlists sprint worth of work
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mayhem
alastairp: besides writing tests for the playlists code, you mean? :P
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alastairp
hey, I put it in the list!
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skelly37
outsidecontext, zas: To make our talk more smooth, I'll just mention that I got interested in PICARD-2519 (urls in command-line), so I'll be asking questions how you see it, how urls work now etc.
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outsidecontext
we'll manage :) Now let's have the LB guys have their discussion
I've got to debug this pylb thing and some other cleanup, but I'll be ready for tue/wed.
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mayhem
nice.
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mayhem
perhaps I can knock out a second playlist as well, but we'll see.
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mayhem
lucifer: what are you planning on working on the next month or so?
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mayhem
I feel that we really need to be able to publish playlists to music services.
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mayhem
brainzplayer simply does not work for day to day listening like daily jams.
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lucifer
in the near term getting couchdb addition done, reviewing riks PRs and finishing up open PRs.
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mayhem
so I would like to be able to tick a box that says: "send my playlists to my music service"
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mayhem
the spotify metadata cache would likely need to get implemented before we do this.
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mayhem
but that is a longer project... and no one really seems all that interested in it.
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lucifer
i think next week i could do some tech debt tasks, like moving msb to TS, working on that listen table migration, trying out kombu in other places of LB to see if it helps.
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monkey
Sorry I wasn't here y'all. I also see fragmented summer schedules making it hard to have a full team sprint, but happy to move the react router project with alastairp when we find the time
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lucifer
hi monkey!
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monkey
Yo!
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lucifer
s/next week/next month
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mayhem
that seems like a good goal for aug.
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alastairp
lucifer: I was wondering how much sleep you were planning on getting...
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alastairp
great
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alastairp
mayhem: got a moment to follow up on some other stuff
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alastairp
?
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lucifer
hehe.
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mayhem
sure, if we're sufficiently happy with planning for now.
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monkey
I'm also working on a few improvements to finish off the listening now feature, so that we can actually publicly release it
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alastairp
I think I'm OK for planning, happy to wait for anyone else to chime in
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mayhem
I think saying that Aug is to tidy loose ends and clean up some debt (or go on vacation) is ok by me.
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monkey
So might rope everyone in for aome feedback on that
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mayhem
monkey: great -- I'm quite enjoying that one.
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mayhem
yes, hit me.
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alastairp
monkey: listening now will also require updating that metadata table, which is also a pending task which I've done a bit of but not finished
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mayhem
loads of debt to go around. I guess our plans are set then. finish shit. :)
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monkey
Oh? What are we missing on the db side?
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mayhem
shall we move on to misc discussion?
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mayhem
monkey: automatic updates.
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alastairp
monkey: it doesn't update when new data goes into mb
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alastairp
mayhem: I'm going through my notes for making dumps of the mapping, and found that we're already dumping public.mbid_mapping_metadata and public.mbid_mapping: https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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monkey
Yeah ok that makes sense :)
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alastairp
I can't remember if these are an older version of the mapping.canonical* tables, or if they're still required
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mayhem
those are different tables -- that is the mapping itself. the other tables are the canonical tables.
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mayhem
alastairp: so both are required. but we may need to review all that for nomenclature, since things have changed quite a lot over the evolution of this data.
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alastairp
yeah, right. and if we want to put them in the same schema or split them
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mayhem
ding
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alastairp
I'll revise these tables + the documentation that I started writing so that we can talk through them next week in person
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mayhem
sounds good
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mayhem
what else should we cover?
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alastairp
I think I'm good
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mayhem
me too.
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mayhem
lets call it done then.
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mayhem
I'm looking forward to the mini sprint. it will feel good to get some team hacking in.
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mayhem
and to highlight these new features.
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mayhem
did y'all see kepstin's message from last week? (or earlier this week?)
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mayhem
!m LB team
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BrainzBot
You're doing good work, LB team!
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alastairp
yeah, that was nice
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alastairp
thanks kepstin
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alastairp
zas: hi, can we remove the zombie processes check in wolf? This is something that we're unable to fix when we use it for BB development
