but, given the concept of matrix factorization and how it is applied to collaborative filtering, we could apply those concepts here.
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mayhem
I would start with a subset of the MB data -- how to define that is a challenge in itself, but something other than the full set will make life easier.
2022-11-01 30527, 2022
mayhem
then massage the genre/tag data that musicbrainz has in order to express it as matrix factorization problem.
2022-11-01 30517, 2022
mayhem
these tracks by these artists have these genres. these tracks by these (same) artists have no genre data. can we matrix factor those and guess at what the missing genres are?
2022-11-01 30558, 2022
mayhem
does that problem statement make sense to you, galactic0205?
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galactic0205
yes it does!
2022-11-01 30542, 2022
mayhem
is that of interest to you?
2022-11-01 30512, 2022
mayhem
do you know apache spark?
2022-11-01 30536, 2022
galactic0205
yes, I would definitely give it a try.
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galactic0205
I have a brief knowledge of how matrix factorization techniques work.
2022-11-01 30537, 2022
galactic0205
I can look more into the same with the specific problem statement.
2022-11-01 30517, 2022
mayhem
well, the good news is that Apache Spark implements it and that we use it for collaborative filtering for recommendations. all that stuff is setup and working in production.
yvanzo: had tested this earlier today on wolf and both completed in 25-35 mins iirc.
2022-11-01 30515, 2022
lucifer
*25-35 mins each
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yvanzo
👍 it depends on the setup too
2022-11-01 30535, 2022
lucifer
mayhem: should user max contribution be configurable?
2022-11-01 30509, 2022
mayhem
yes. plz.
2022-11-01 30514, 2022
lucifer
👍
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mayhem
lucifer: do you know of a place in our docs where we refer to a JSON file as an example of what data should be POSTed to an endpoint?
2022-11-01 30552, 2022
mayhem
e.g. I have listenbrainz/art/misc/sample_cover_art_grid_post_request.json that I would like to reference in the docstring for an endpoint. if you have an example I could copy from, that would be great.
"I want to get into that, because it seems like the music industry, the artists and labels, always want more of what is effectively a fixed amount of money. Everyone is only paying so much, and the only way you can make more money for the actual musicians is by raising prices. It seems very difficult to make more money in any other way. You can make more money for the companies — for Amazons and Spotifys — by layering other
2022-11-01 30547, 2022
mayhem
kinds of content like podcasts and audiobooks, but it seems like there is only one lever to actually generate more money for the music industry."
2022-11-01 30526, 2022
mayhem
that about sums up the current state of the industry. its a feeding frenzy for the cents sloshing around and the artists don't have enough cents to put in to collect the cents they are due.
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atj
"So yes, there is a fixed pool of money in recorded music, but the pool keeps growing, right? It’s fixed per customer, but when you get into areas like merch, there are unlimited amounts that people are willing to spend to connect with their favorite artist and to represent their fandom."
2022-11-01 30527, 2022
atj
translated: you're never going to make enough money from streaming so you need to sell merchandise (preferably via Amazon)
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mayhem
that is an old trope.
2022-11-01 30506, 2022
mayhem
the other one is "touring, go touring to make money."
2022-11-01 30524, 2022
atj
"At the end of the day, you want to use a music service because it feels like it’s part of music culture." - lol
2022-11-01 30525, 2022
mayhem
except that most artists wear themselves out and dont actually earn all that much.
2022-11-01 30535, 2022
mayhem
pathetic, no?
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atj
I find it deeply cynical to be honest
2022-11-01 30510, 2022
mayhem
welcome to the music industry.
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elomatreb[m]
The middle reads like manufacturing consent for locking artists into exclusivity deals with streaming platforms
2022-11-01 30556, 2022
atj
tech industry + music industry = <endless screaming>
2022-11-01 30554, 2022
mayhem
elomatreb[m]: yerp, that is pretty much an industry wet dream.
2022-11-01 30504, 2022
mayhem
everyone must have 100% ownership of everything!
2022-11-01 30511, 2022
mayhem
🙄
2022-11-01 30525, 2022
elomatreb[m]
There were some well-known German artists (e.g. Die Ärzte) that refused to sign up for Spotify and other streaming platforms for the longest time, but even they gave in now
2022-11-01 30532, 2022
mayhem
yeah, see pink floyd and the beatles too.
2022-11-01 30521, 2022
lucifer
mayhem: did your issue get resolved?
2022-11-01 30529, 2022
mayhem
yes, thanks.
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lucifer
👍
2022-11-01 30547, 2022
mayhem
we'll need to find a better way to deal with the doc requirements.txt, but the art PR is now ready.
