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      • mayhem
        was that always the case? or did you fix something and the error moved on?
      • 2023-01-31 03130, 2023

      • lucifer
        i am not sure, its the case as of now.
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      • mayhem
        ok, I'll get back on it.
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      • bitmap
        alastairp: right, the goal for MB at least was to restrict keys to a particular directory to prevent accidental clobbering or deletion. may not be as relevant to other projects in which case one or two keys might be fine
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      • mayhem
        no changes to troi code?
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      • yvanzo
        alastairp: Done.
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      • lucifer
        none
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      • mayhem
        k
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      • alastairp
        bitmap: right. We have 4 types of dumps, each going into different subdirectories. Perhaps we could use a single key to limit to the LB dir, but then use the same one for each subdir
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      • bitmap
        that sounds reasonable to me
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      • yvanzo
        Jira apps update at :45, tickets might be less available for a very short time.
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      • mayhem
        lucifer: "Failed to generate playlist: Cannot fetch dataset recordings from https://labs.api.listenbrainz.org/similar-artists…. HTTP code 400 (<!doctype htm>"
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      • mayhem
        I still see the error in similar artists.
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      • alastairp
        mayhem: any thoughts on the frequency of the canonical dumps? I was thinking that every 2 or 4 weeks would probably be sufficient
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      • yvanzo
        Done with Jira.
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      • mayhem
        I'll leave it be for today and have a look at it with fresh eyes in the morning.
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      • mayhem
        alastairp: 2 weeks sounds good.
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      • alastairp
        ok, and I've set it to prune to 2 items, too
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      • mayhem
        great
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      • lucifer
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      • lucifer
        this is what i get currently without nay changes to the branch
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      • mayhem
        uh, that is extra special.
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      • lucifer
        cool, sounds good. i'll try to fix it in meantime and let you know how it goes.
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      • mayhem
        ok, thanks.
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      • aerozol
        Freso: thanks! I can indeed now edit other people's posts from ages ago, crazy
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      • aerozol
        reosarevok: are you the only forum admin for the year now? Let me know if you want a hand (and if there's any moderator docs/guides, though I assume it's just the CoC)
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      • aerozol
        P.s. mōrena!
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] 14alastair opened pull request #2349 (03master…py3.11): Update to python 3.11 and required dependencies https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • alastairp
        lucifer: I added a PR to syswiki about how to use the rabbitmq web interface to inspect the LB incoming queue
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      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        does this mean that the docs on readthedocs.io are the current development docs, and the ones in github are the stable docs?
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] 14alastair opened pull request #2350 (03master…upgrade-actions-versions): Upgrade actions versions https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • jasje__
        akshaaatt: incoming heavy cleanup
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      • jasje__
        akshaaatt: and the app works fine
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      • yvanzo
        alastairp: these are the same docs, just the source and the version in readthedocs
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      • yvanzo
        alastairp: ideally, it should just point to the stable/production version in readthedocs, but it is not available at the moment.
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      • alastairp
        ahhh, i see. I mis-understood the source/development to mean stable/development
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      • alastairp
        maybe "source" and "compiled docs (development branch only)" would be more explicit, but I'm not sure how useful that is
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      • yvanzo
        alastairp: we can just drop the "source" link to be honest
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      • alastairp
        sure
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      • akshaaatt
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      • mayhem
        nice embedded rickroll.
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      • mayhem
        yeah, akshaaatt this is what I was talking about.
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      • akshaaatt
        ChatGPT has been quite scary tbh
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      • akshaaatt
        I used to hear people say that creative jobs would always exist, yet I see them perishing the first
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      • mayhem
        I'm not quite so pessimistic on this.
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      • mayhem
        have you tried to get dall-e to generate an image of something totally new?
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      • akshaaatt
        Yes
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      • mayhem
        imagine something that doesn't exist. there are no photos of it.
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      • mayhem
        dall-e is unlikely going to be able to create that. if it has never seen something, it can't generate it.
      • 2023-01-31 03119, 2023

      • mayhem
        yes, it does a fantastic job of interpolating between the concepts it has seen.
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      • akshaaatt
        Makes sense for now but the tech is catching up
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      • mayhem
        but in the end, if you need something specific, the AI can't do it and you'll need humans.
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      • mayhem
        but to me that is the upper end of the market for creatives. upper end will always have jobs.
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      • mayhem
        however, lower-end less skilled people, like gazillions of graphic designers?
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      • akshaaatt
        Agreed. Imagining things is difficult for such models. But cooking things up is easy for them via existing stuff.
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      • mayhem
        gone. replaced en-masse by AI that can crank out a web page and logos for a local bakery.
      • 2023-01-31 03120, 2023

      • akshaaatt
        Right
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      • mayhem
        local bakers won't care. they want a logo and then go make their tasty goods.
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      • mayhem
        the looking at music...
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      • mayhem
        there are many many many people who have music tastes that were set in their teenage years. a lot of people never progress past that.
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      • mayhem
        these people will be happy with AI music. especially if you can just keep telling it how to change the music according to your momentary mood.
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      • mayhem
        so, what if 25% - 50% of people give up on spotify and switch to AI?
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      • mayhem
        that's a game changer. and not a good one. not good for us.
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      • mayhem
        but, if LB and MB can distance themselves from that and provide honest music, with real emotions, real people, etc, we have a change to provide this.
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      • akshaaatt
        Agreed
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      • akshaaatt
        But tbh musicbrainz would play a big role in powering these models
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      • mayhem
        *chance
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      • mayhem
        possibly.
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      • mayhem
        but if there is one music AI, that means I customer. one unicorn. eeek
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      • akshaaatt
        Right
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      • reosarevok
        aerozol: I'm not sure, we're figuring all this out
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      • reosarevok
        aerozol: do you want wiki admin rights? To delete pages and whatnot if needed
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      • reosarevok
        I think it might make sense :)
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      • aerozol
        reosarevok: if it’s helpful then let’s do it
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      • reosarevok
        Ok, changed your privs
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      • aerozol
        Thanks! Anything I should know? The new buttons that have popped up look pretty straight forward
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      • aerozol
        Do you have to use them much?
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      • reosarevok
        I haven't used them in months
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      • reosarevok
        I sometimes (rarely) move a page to history or something
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      • reosarevok
        But if someone adds dodgy / spammy shit that someone reports for example, it's good that you can remove it
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      • aerozol
        Gotcha
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      • mayhem
        took a shower, found a bug, back again. sigh.
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      • mayhem
        lucifer: I think we need to remove " - 2008 remaster" from the spotify content resolver before we index the tracks.
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      • mayhem
        "space oddity" by david Bowie gets pushed off to some strange re-recording of the track. should I open a ticket?
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      • reosarevok
        alastairp: your forum description still says "AcousticBrainz Lead & Software Engineer" - should that change?
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      • reosarevok
        Freso's now says "MetaBrainz Community Manager (on leave)" - do you want something similar for you? "Software Engineer (on leave)"?
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      • reosarevok
        bitmap: I guess you didn't update test with the latest PR changes yet?
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      • reosarevok
        I'll test locally instead
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      • reosarevok
        At least selenium is happy now
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      • lucifer
        mayhem: ticket makes sense. are there cases where we may want to fall back to the remaster or actually map to the remaster?
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      • Freso
        About to send in my final invoice this year. I’m going to close IRC and will probably take some days away from anything MeB, but I’ll be around again soon enough as a "regular editor". I can be reached in case something urgent-urgent comes up, but otherwise others have the keys now. Ciao!
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      • aerozol
        <3 Freso
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      • reosarevok
        <3
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      • lucifer
        take care, Freso!
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      • akshaaatt
        <3 Take care Freso!
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-android] 14akshaaatt merged pull request #42 (03main…fix-newbrainz-logo-jasje): Fixed display logo in NewBrainz https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-androi…
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      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] 14mwiencek merged pull request #2817 (03beta…test): Merge relationship editor changes from the test branch into beta https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
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      • bitmap
        reosarevok: yvanzo: FYI it seems the old python tx client is deprecated and the API it used no longer works, so in order to download and push translations I had to upgrade to the new client and migrate po/.tx/config to a new format
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      • bitmap
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      • bitmap
        the migration was as simple as 'tx migrate' and everything seems to work normally otherwise
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      • bitmap
        going to update beta soon
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      • aerozol
        reosarevok: are community manager emails going to you now, or are you checking them? Forum question here: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/how-often-is-t…
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      • aerozol
        Again, let me know if you need a hand
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      • reosarevok
        As of today, yes
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      • reosarevok
        I'll talk with mayhem tomorrow about the way to do this and certainly happy to have you in the mix
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      • reosarevok
        !m bitmap
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      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, bitmap!
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      • aerozol
        nice one reo
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      • Maxr1998
        Super happy that the duplicated artists in LB reports are finally fixed. Great job! But I noticed that the links are currently missing. Artist map is empty too.. should I file a ticket on Jira?
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      • mayhem
        deffo ticket. assign to lucifer
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      • Maxr1998
        Alright, done. Filed as LB-1218.
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      • BrainzBot
        LB-1218: Missing artist links in top artists report and chart https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/LB-1218