jasje: Was just following up our meeting to-do list, turns out there are already links to Figma, in the design-system, but I liked that you included logos etc. Do you want to link me your figma that had all that stuff, and I’ll incorporate it into the linked ones?
I was thinking of keeping finalized designs of every page in this figma
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jasje
right now the profile page is marked as beta because thta was just me
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jasje
but there we already have design of yim
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jasje
we could port feed designs
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aerozol
Jasje: That’s excellent, that’s pretty much what we’re aiming for with the MB and LB figma’s as well, but as you can tell it’s tricky to keep everything updated when you have a lot of pages
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aerozol
But what you’ve done is excellent
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jasje
and have a link to where all the conversation happened
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jasje
Glad you liked it ;)
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aerozol
The only issue is not being able to have a lot of editors without paying… and it’s expensive too
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aerozol
So people will have to clone stuff
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jasje
given that most contributors are students, students get free premium accounts
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jasje
but otherwise, money would be spent
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jasje
thats why we should keep a link in each page that leads to another contributors figma
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aerozol
I’m not a student 🥲
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jasje
but the final designs, remain on this figma
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jasje feels bad for aerozol with his premium account
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jasje
xD
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aerozol
Ohh that’s how you managed to invite me to edit that other one! Maybe I can hassle MeB to pay for an account but it really is $$$, I don’t know if it’s worth it
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aerozol
I’ll put a link to your LB App figma into design system
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jasje
No need to pay just wait a second ill show you how we can bypass that
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jasje
aerozol: have a look at the figma again, go to feed page (under pages section)
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aerozol
Okay, what am I looking at
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jasje
So the finalized designs remain here
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jasje
and we have another figma where all the decisions took place
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jasje
btw how many people are allowed to edit in one figma?
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aerozol
Cool cool, but what’s that got to do with me being able to invite people to edit Figma/not getting a paid account 🤔
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aerozol
I believe without a paid account you can only have 1 or two figma’s that other can edit (I’ve hit this limit)
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jasje
just have one paid account for MeB then
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aerozol
Having a central figma’s all good, as long as someone updates it, if that person goes AWOL we can just clone the figma (I love that feature)
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aerozol
Yeah for sure, just quite a high monthly cost. Let’s try get away without it for a bit longer...
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jasje
i think no of invites is unlimiteed for paid figma
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jasje
so 2 maintainers then huh
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jasje
pricing sure is outta pocket
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aerozol
We can always pay if it becomes a problem
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jasje
renamed the figma to ListenBrainz Android
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jasje
also aerozol: the stories type idea for similar listens page didn't strike the mark
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jasje
need something else
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aerozol
Sorry, can you expand what you mean? You mean just having a feed of recent listens isn’t good, or which one?
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jasje
the similar listens page with the horizontal scroll of user similarity
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jasje
in LB Android Feed
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aerozol
Didn’t strike the mark with who?
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jasje
didnt look good
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jasje
i had tried some stuff but nothing seems to fit into the design
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jasje
take a look at similar listens 3 - Dark
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aerozol
Cool, I’ll look tonight and have a play
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jasje
alrighty
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
🐟
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aerozol
blub
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aerozol
jasje: I added the ListenBrainz App to the Design System readme, and made some changes to the figma - have a look. I’ll do similar for the others as well
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jasje_
aerozol: looks good to me!
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reosarevok
mayhem: lol, someone reported troi-bot as a bot :)
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reosarevok
(in LB(
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CatQuest
lol
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CatQuest
I mean..
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aerozol
jasje: jasje_: I left a comment and did another mockup with how it could work on click/tap - but I really like it! Curious to know what you don’t like
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jasje_
aerozol: just saw it
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jasje_
the circles look bland to me. The listen cards have so much going on and on the other hand there are the circles
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aerozol
At this stage in the design discussion it’s more about the functionality. If we know that the function works - e.g. it’s a good way to display information, it makes sense, etc - then we can make it more interesting visually afterwards
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aerozol
Function *before* form (if you remember that discussion from last week!)
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jasje_
there won't be any problems with the functionality ill assure you that
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aerozol
Do you mean that you do like the similar users horizontal scroll at the top like that, just not how it looks?
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jasje_
yus
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aerozol
Okay, cool! I thought you wanted to go back to the drawing board
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jasje_
also maybe no
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aerozol
:D
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jasje_
aerozol: drawing board would be nice
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aerozol
Okay, we can do that, but you need to say what you don’t like about the functionality of the horizontal scroll at the top
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aerozol
From a the user experience perspective
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jasje_
it doesn't serve the exact purpose i was thinking, let me elaborate
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jasje_
so lets say i open up the similar listens tab
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jasje_
firstly i want to confirm that there isn't going to be timestamp afaik
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aerozol
One thing I like about not messing with the core feed ‘list’ style is that we can potentially add more feed tabs! And it’s very inviting for me to side swipe through them and see what comes up. If every one has a unique style and cards and so on it becomes too confusing to do that, I have to stop and re-examine each tab
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aerozol
We wont know when a song has been played, you mean?
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jasje_
yes
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aerozol
Then it shouldn’t be in feed at all
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aerozol
If it’s not a feed
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jasje_
the current top recordings apis don't have that well have to confirm with lucifer first
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jasje_
if he can include the ts and if its okay with this extra metadata
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jasje_
i hope so
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aerozol
Why are we using top recordings?
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jasje_
to get the most listened recordings for that day
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aerozol
I thought this was similar users, and then grab their recent listens
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jasje_
yup it is that
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jasje_
top recordings from recent listens of similar users
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aerozol
That doesn’t quite fit for me
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jasje_
anyways i don't think the timestamp thing will be that difficult
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jasje_
so you want recent listens?
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aerozol
Yeah, just a basic feed of what they’ve listened to. A few reasons:
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aerozol
If a similar user is listening to some niche music/a discovery unique to them, I’m not sure we want to bury it under what’s most popular. We kind of already have that function in fresh releases, and global stats and so on. I think the feed should be a ‘feed’
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jasje_
makes sense
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aerozol
Besides that I think it’s getting complicated. Grab top 10 similar users > aggregate their listens (I don’t know how likely it is that they’re listening to the same albums anyway?) based on x recent timeframe > group them in some way where we can see who’s listened to what and how much but also total listens...
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jasje_
i thought since it was for a day it could go to feed
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jasje_
recent listens it is then
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aerozol
I don’t think similar users accounts for activity? So if a lot of them are inactive it might be an empty feed? I think it’s cool to make this a super powerful function, but I think it would make life easier for you to start with the basic
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jasje_
I thought we could have something much more precise
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aerozol
*empty feed if we refresh every day
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aerozol
I hear you, I’m just thinking of potential problems. And a lot are coming to mind! I also think you are underestimating how useful the ‘boring’ version of this is to a lot of people ;)
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jasje_
that is true
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jasje_
no questions there
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aerozol
Here’s a thought - how about we start with a really simple version of the similar users feed. And then you use the ‘Explore’ section (have to see how this looks on mobile…) to make the crazy powerful/precise tool you’re imagining, and just make it live there. That’s why I put a beta section into the website Explore mockup, but we haven’t used it yet.
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jasje_
oh yeah i was thinking of having a beta tag for the app too
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aerozol
LB has so much potential for crazy stuff, there’s no reason why we can’t do it all. And why it couldn’t eventually wrap into the main pages if it turns out it works great
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jasje_
last time i built yim, some part of it was released midway
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jasje_
since alot of the main pages of website are to be ported to the app
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aerozol
Hey btw jasje_, shall I replace the png logo collection with svgs in the figma, or are the pngs more useful in some cases?
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jasje_
I was thing of having a small [beta] tag that depicts it is under active development
