#metabrainz

bitmap: 👍

reosarevok, kellnerd: no, it's fine, it’s just because I cherry-picked one isolated commit instead of the full pull request.

reosarevok: disabling fuzzy matching would be worse, the translations would be lost instead.

prathamg: what is your client? irccloud has a built in img paste. if you use a different client try an image sharer like https://www.imgpaste.net/

for text https://paste.ee/ works for me

bitmap: don't update the POT files in production though :)

right, I didn't merge anything into production except the PR

The restrictions/descriptions mismatch might have a different reason, according to the history it was changed 12 days ago already. Was fuzzy matching already enabled by then?

🙏 instrument rel alias search fix oh

MonkeyPython Thanks! I use the default kiwi client for libera chat. I'll check out irccloud but I think it is paid.

MonkeyPython: we'll probably deploy that later today, but rn I'm just releasing a pre-equisite change to load the data. :)

prerequisite*

bitmap: yea I kinda undertood that. there is someting bout putting instrument aliases in the redis that reo explained to me sort of

Also I think the github sign in to jira isn't working https://www.imgpaste.net/image/KjFnB4

prathamg: it is, but yo ucna use a free thing. and it will stay online for 3 hours isntead of indefiniitly

yvanzo: yeah, I mean to avoid things like that fuzzy matching of "descriptions" vs "restrictions" :)

But dunno, maybe that was something else

MonkeyPython: Okay will use it

well you cna test it and see if the free thing works for you

bitmap: Can this pull request be merged now? Would be helpful for the other pull requests dealing with numerous changes in source messages :) https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

sure, unless reosarevok wants to test it on his machine first?

reosarevok: Fuzzy matched strings are not used until a translator unmark these. :)

(that was something else indeed)

Did it use to cause issues between bitmap and yvanzo pots?

If yes I don't think it needs more testing

yvanzo: sure, I know, just it looks silly to have it prefilled to something seemingly random :D

there is a weed joke in there

not sure, maybe when I ran update_pot.sh on macOS. but I haven't done releases in a while

Ok, I can try

reosarevok: Sure but it did not happen so far.

Well, kellnerd suggested it did happen 12 days ago with descriptions vs restrictions, hence asking :D

Anyway, testing

The PR

I thought you meant the wrapping

haha

I meant the wrapping for my question on pots, the fuzzy stuff with my question directly to yvanzo

Sorry, it all made sense in my head

Tested, my pot is unchanged

I now quit smoke

the pot is making reosarevok's head fuzzy

:D

Oh sorry, didn’t see that.

Easy to spot though, and that’s the reason why fuzzy messages are not used.

Yeah, I guess we can always reconsider keeping fuzzy always on if we get too many of these and translators complain but probably fine for now

yea I mean I don't really understand but any thing that makes it say "restrictions" as a suggestion when the word is "descriptions" seems liek a real bad fit

I never saw you smoking, how can you stop doing something you never did? :)

perhance in the future the fuzzy matching will also be improved and more logical

perchance*

MonkeyPython: well, it's a very similar word, so it makes sense (we want it to match if you change from "Descriptions:" to "descriptions")

That's why it's fuzzy :D

hm

The question is whether it should always run. But in any case, don't worry, as yvanzo said, it won't be applied unless a translator says "yes, this looks good" :)

is ther ea like steps? so like do step 1,2 but not step 4

(it's just a helper)

yea

Does "LB" fuzzy matches "Last.fm"?

-es

step I mean.. levels? do you understand? like "Descriptions:" to "descriptions" must be step 1 but "descriptions" to "restrictions" must be level 3,4?

similarity levels

if there was such a setting

Often they only look at amount of changed letters

that's bad

It's also how most fuzzy searches work :)

that's (still) bad

So if you typo stuff, it'll still find it

hmm

maybe i expect that in 23 there is some logic to it

Otherwise all those people searching for musicbrains would never find us

:D

(maybe that'd be for the best, I dunno, but)

but musicbainz don't work

:D

does searching for boobrainz work?

YES

sucksess

erh

success

[musicbrainz-server] 14mwiencek merged pull request #3106 (03beta…pot-msg-wrap): Set -w (page width) on msgcat and msguniq https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

finished deploying the LinkAttributeType patch & cleared the :all cache

that was a fun command to write: docker exec musicbrainz-production-cron sh -c 'sudo -E -H -u musicbrainz carton exec -- perl -Ilib -e '"'"'use MusicBrainz::Server::Context; my $c = MusicBrainz::Server::Context->create_script_context; $c->model("LinkAttributeType")->_delete_all_from_cache;'"'"

bitmap: not sure why you merged it to beta instead of master though?

my bad, I merged beta into master

oh no

Well, ok :)

Oops, it’s a docker command, not an ssh command, but the same function can probably be done.

the annoying part is all the nested quotes :0 can it help there?

double quotes would've been easier to escape but then I'd have to escape all the dollar signs in the Perl hehe

yes, it wouldn't help really

re: oh no, is merging beta into master an issue now?

'"'"' reminds me of https://esolangs.org/wiki/Qwote :D

not here, cherry-picking would have been enough though

tru

kellnerd: exactly! it can probably execute some bash strings

yvanzo: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zampogna (wich is a ticket i will add it INST-1058)

INST-1058: zampogna https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-1058

so a Cornemuse should be fine too

see also: gaita, säckpipa, etc

(re too many different cornemuse if france excisiting)

s/if/of/

This one is Italian.

(Zampogna)

yep

Gaita is Iberic.

yep

?

I cannot really help with those :)

"Zampogna is a generic term for a number of Italian double chantered bagpipes "

ie that while I am going ot add this that means that it is a bit generic. so my point was that "cornemuse isa bit generic and that is fine too?

sorry if i was unclear :)

There are at least 14 types of Zampogna listed in https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zampogna

i understood you to mean yesterday that cornemuse can't be added because "there are too many"

yea

Cornemuse is already added as the French translation of bagpipe.

also the sourdeline/surduline,/sordolina with zampogna intertwining gives me a headace :D

yes

so is gaita (which are a range of iberian backpipes too)

But it is fine to add more specific types of bagpipe.

same with duas, dudy and other kornamuzo style aliases for other languages I haven't added to bagpipes yet because I want to add the corresponding specific bagpipe first so that if users search for it they will spsifically see both the isntrument and generally "bagpipes"

yes it is :D

hench why i'd love if someone could jsut create a "cornemuse" type ticket

Yeah, the main issue in bagpipes is that often there's a word in the language which just means "bagpipe" in general, but it's also used to refer to the specific types of bagpipe from that country

exacamundo!

I was just saying there are too may for me to help with.

Yes, but there is no specific instrument called a cornemuse.

oh!!

hm

Even in French, it’s a generic term.

oh i see

(also i only meant for osmeon to create a ticket not to do al lthe work of that :))

It might have been a local term in the past, pure speculation from me.

I wonder what https://saisaibatake.ame-zaiku.com/musical_inst... means it though 🤔

the translation seems to suggest that cornemuse are bellows blown and musette are mouth blown (a distinction I haven't see anywhre else but I like the logic)

it says "https://saisaibatake.ame-zaiku.com/musical_instrument/gakki_jiten_cornemuse.html"

erh

i says "In the first place, the French Cornemuse is a term for Bagpipes, so it is a general term for the entire bug pipe."

so that seems the same thing you're saying

I wonder wich type this is an illustration of though

The illustration looks a bit like this one: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornemuse_du_Centre

aha

i was thinking that

and that one's a spesific one isn't it

I love how the German term Sackpfeife (exact translation for bagpipe) also makes for a good insult because both "Sack" and "Pfeife" can be used as insults. The alternative term "Dudelsack" sounds much nicer :)