I have nothing to report for last week, was afk most of the time.
2024-02-05 03617, 2024
kellnerd
That's it I guess.
2024-02-05 03632, 2024
yvanzo[m]
Thanks, back to reosarevok (IRC) then!
2024-02-05 03637, 2024
reosarevok
Hi!
2024-02-05 03642, 2024
reosarevok
Thanks everyone for your reviews
2024-02-05 03611, 2024
reosarevok
We have two topics, and both are by zas, so:
2024-02-05 03623, 2024
reosarevok
SolrCloud? (and very much not SOLR Cloud)
2024-02-05 03639, 2024
ApeKattQuest
whats the diff?
2024-02-05 03640, 2024
zas
It has to be upgraded
2024-02-05 03603, 2024
zas
The cluster is now 100% resources almost all the times
2024-02-05 03621, 2024
zas
So we need to migrate to increase the overall performance, and upgrade SOLR in the process
2024-02-05 03642, 2024
reosarevok
So is that why the search fails relatively often?
2024-02-05 03643, 2024
zas
The idea is to deploy a set of VMs in pararel
2024-02-05 03651, 2024
zas
reosarevok: yes
2024-02-05 03615, 2024
ApeKattQuest
oh!
2024-02-05 03626, 2024
zas
yvanzo & I can do most of the work on that I think, we'll need atj for Ansible support (if we go this way for it)
2024-02-05 03619, 2024
yvanzo[m]
There are some resources available for deploying through Ansible already, just need to adapt.
2024-02-05 03635, 2024
zas
The current cost of SOLRCloud is rather low (<200€/month), we can prolly drop our own load balancers since Hetzner has now a solution for that
2024-02-05 03626, 2024
zas
Of course, more nodes will be needed, we'll evaluate that during testing phase
2024-02-05 03606, 2024
zas
The other topic was about the need to upgrade docker on all machines (and rather soon)
2024-02-05 03612, 2024
reosarevok
Ok
2024-02-05 03616, 2024
reosarevok
zas: Servers reboot!
2024-02-05 03648, 2024
zas
We need to organize that this week if possible
2024-02-05 03659, 2024
zas
While at it, we'll upgrade consul too
2024-02-05 03602, 2024
ApeKattQuest
so some downtime this week?
2024-02-05 03605, 2024
zas
and reboot all servers
2024-02-05 03614, 2024
ApeKattQuest
that suits me atleast fine that it's this week
2024-02-05 03617, 2024
zas
ApeKattQuest: yes, likely, but it should be short
2024-02-05 03630, 2024
ApeKattQuest
noproblem at all
2024-02-05 03610, 2024
monkey
Ok, say when and I'll be available
2024-02-05 03619, 2024
mayhem[m]
zas: ping lucifer (IRC) and I tomorrow during the day when we're both about and we can do the LB servers.
2024-02-05 03638, 2024
zas
ok, what about tomorrow meeting time?
2024-02-05 03639, 2024
bitmap
let me know when you'd like to reboot floyd and I can publish a blog post for the downtime
2024-02-05 03644, 2024
bitmap
er, jimmy
2024-02-05 03654, 2024
lucifer
sure works
2024-02-05 03659, 2024
mayhem[m]
I'm not around that time tomorrow.
2024-02-05 03611, 2024
zas
mayhem[m]: sooner then?
2024-02-05 03614, 2024
mayhem[m]
but if lucifer (IRC) is willing to do it, then by all means.
2024-02-05 03620, 2024
reosarevok
bitmap: how long would the downtime be?
2024-02-05 03620, 2024
yvanzo[m]
sooner works for me
2024-02-05 03632, 2024
reosarevok
Not sure if worth a blog if short?
2024-02-05 03635, 2024
reosarevok
Maybe just a tweet?
2024-02-05 03643, 2024
bitmap
reosarevok: not sure, however long it takes to upgrade and reboot the server
2024-02-05 03612, 2024
zas
upgrade is quick, reboot usually few mins at worse
2024-02-05 03616, 2024
yvanzo[m]
What is still causing a downtime? PG?
2024-02-05 03618, 2024
lucifer
mayhem[m], zas: after 12:00PM UTC anytime works for me.
2024-02-05 03630, 2024
bitmap
PG
2024-02-05 03634, 2024
ApeKattQuest
should be quick. but just in case
2024-02-05 03604, 2024
zas
we can start during the day to upgrade servers that aren't critical (or are redundant) as usual
2024-02-05 03619, 2024
lucifer
makes sense
2024-02-05 03626, 2024
mayhem[m]
k
2024-02-05 03632, 2024
zas
ok, let's say 17 PM UTC?
2024-02-05 03637, 2024
zas
bitmap: ^^?
2024-02-05 03645, 2024
bitmap
worksforme
2024-02-05 03600, 2024
lucifer
bitmap, can you also do the relevant changes to enable logical replication?
2024-02-05 03614, 2024
bitmap
for sure
2024-02-05 03621, 2024
lucifer
thanks!
2024-02-05 03631, 2024
zas
I suggest we discuss details outside the meeting
2024-02-05 03640, 2024
zas
reosarevok: back to you
2024-02-05 03642, 2024
reosarevok
So, that sounds like a wrap?
2024-02-05 03645, 2024
reosarevok
Ok, thanks!
2024-02-05 03655, 2024
reosarevok
So, thanks again everyone for attending
2024-02-05 03602, 2024
reosarevok
</BANG>
2024-02-05 03610, 2024
rdswift[m]
lucifer (IRC): Just a "heads up" that the topic in matrix doesn't seem to be getting updated when it changes in IRC. Will that be an issue regarding the meeting agenda?
2024-02-05 03623, 2024
reosarevok
Hmm, that's something we should try to bridge better :)
2024-02-05 03636, 2024
yvanzo[m]
Thanks IRCers, but you’re missing all the fluff of using Matrix!
2024-02-05 03654, 2024
lucifer
rdswift[m]: hmm, right. i think it works when you set if from matrix but not vice versa
2024-02-05 03604, 2024
ApeKattQuest
hmm
2024-02-05 03620, 2024
ApeKattQuest
is that why the topic got changed back and forth accidentally
2024-02-05 03620, 2024
rdswift[m]
Also, I'm not us normal users can change it in matrix.
2024-02-05 03641, 2024
rdswift[m]
* I'm not sure that us normal
2024-02-05 03647, 2024
yvanzo[m]
I doubt that it might due to it, because changing the description of the room in Matrix requires privileges.
2024-02-05 03653, 2024
yvanzo[m]
*be
2024-02-05 03600, 2024
ApeKattQuest
what, are there OP in matrix?
2024-02-05 03647, 2024
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, SolrCloud (zas), Servers Reboot (zas) | TEST
2024-02-05 03655, 2024
ApeKattQuest
what does matrix say for topic now
2024-02-05 03614, 2024
rdswift[m]
Might need to maintain the meeting agenda elsewhere?
2024-02-05 03637, 2024
TOPIC: #metabrainz MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews
2024-02-05 03638, 2024
aerozol
akshaaatt: lucifer: I get the feeling the app YIM momentum has waned - are you okay with me sharing the news that we reran it akshaaatt? If you are planning another push for the app YIM it would be a good excuse to plug it, but it has been a while now!
2024-02-05 03657, 2024
KartikOhri[m] joined the channel
2024-02-05 03658, 2024
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, SolrCloud (zas), Servers Reboot (zas) | TEST
2024-02-05 03607, 2024
ApeKattQuest
hmm..
2024-02-05 03612, 2024
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, SolrCloud (zas), Servers Reboot (zas)
2024-02-05 03617, 2024
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews
2024-02-05 03637, 2024
rdswift[m]
ApeKattQuest: #metabrainz MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, IRC alternatives (mayhem, lucifer), Summit 2024 (ruaok)
2024-02-05 03637, 2024
rdswift[m]
Looks like something has changed because I now have ability to edit it.
2024-02-05 03639, 2024
yvanzo[m]
Apparently I can change it too from Matrix 😄
2024-02-05 03647, 2024
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews, SolrCloud (zas), Servers Reboot (zas)
2024-02-05 03612, 2024
lucifer
yvanzo[m], rdswift[m]: yes i changed the room topic permissions
2024-02-05 03614, 2024
ApeKattQuest
but the topic isn't actually changing. only a lot of people it "so and such has changed topic to...."
2024-02-05 03626, 2024
akshaaatt
I haven’t got the chance yet to debug the issues we were facing last time, aerozol. pranavkonidena[m was looking into it but it might take a few more days to release so we should release it separately
2024-02-05 03646, 2024
akshaaatt
You can go ahead with the re run yim news
2024-02-05 03650, 2024
aerozol
zas: bitmap: just checking for the meeting notes, downtime confirmed for 17 PM UTC tomorrow? Or not 100% sure yet
2024-02-05 03658, 2024
yvanzo[m]
That’s a feint.
2024-02-05 03619, 2024
ApeKattQuest
i thgouht it was lb
2024-02-05 03635, 2024
bitmap
aerozol: I thought we are only rebooting redundant servers tomorrow, but not 100% sure
2024-02-05 03638, 2024
aerozol
Okay thanks akshaaatt. If it’s a ‘few more days’ we can wait, if ‘a few more days’ = no idea when then I will share the news today ;)
2024-02-05 03653, 2024
yvanzo[m]
aerozol (IRC): Time not confirmed yet, but not before 17:00 UTC
2024-02-05 03604, 2024
aerozol
Thanks, I won’t confirm a time
2024-02-05 03645, 2024
yvanzo[m]
We can say that there will be a downtime at some point after 17:00 UTC.
2024-02-05 03653, 2024
akshaaatt
Currently the issue is at a no idea stage because pranavkonidena[m tried to debug it but couldn’t reproduce it
2024-02-05 03608, 2024
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews | TEST
2024-02-05 03615, 2024
yvanzo[m]
But there will be some tweet about it when confirmed I guess.
2024-02-05 03617, 2024
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | BookBrainz: #bookbrainz | Channel is logged; see https://musicbrainz.org/doc/IRC for details | Agenda: Reviews
2024-02-05 03628, 2024
aerozol
Got it thanks akshaaatt
2024-02-05 03648, 2024
akshaaatt
:)
2024-02-05 03652, 2024
bitmap
apologies if I wasn't paying attention, I can prepare the PG changes for tomorrow anyway
2024-02-05 03635, 2024
yvanzo[m]
bitmap: Is there anything special to do/check regarding cache changes for today’s MBS release?
2024-02-05 03636, 2024
bitmap
let me just double check that no DBDefs changes are needed...
2024-02-05 03613, 2024
bitmap
our production DBDefs files do not use the new REDIS_*_DATABASE settings, but I guess that's not really an issue. (I'm not even sure it was worth adding these.)
2024-02-05 03659, 2024
bitmap
yvanzo[m]: nothing special needed, then, but I will keep an eye on things after it's deployed
2024-02-05 03622, 2024
yvanzo[m]
bitmap: I don’t see any change about REDIS_*DATABASE in the code.
2024-02-05 03654, 2024
bitmap
in lib/DBDefs/Default.pm, I introduced three new settings
a problem with REDIS_CACHE_DATABASE and REDIS_STORE_DATABASE is that they are not used at all if you already have CACHE_MANAGER_OPTIONS, DATASTORE_REDIS_ARGS, etc. configured without them.
2024-02-05 03647, 2024
aerozol
p.s. happy Waitangi Day everyone! Today Aotearoa pays respect to the treaty between Māori and Europeans, the founding document of ‘modern’ NZ
2024-02-05 03656, 2024
monkey
And to you aerozol !
2024-02-05 03647, 2024
aerozol
Thanks monkey!
2024-02-05 03609, 2024
aerozol
Reminds me, I had a q for you, that I accidentally pinged reo for instead
2024-02-05 03602, 2024
aerozol
Thanks for all the notes on the LB recap document! I started writing it in current tense, which was fun, but about halfway through it had tied me in knots a little bit. If you think it is too confusing I can rewrite it to all be past tense. Otherwise I’ll have another pass over it to make sure it’s consistently current tense
2024-02-05 03616, 2024
aerozol
^ monkey
2024-02-05 03609, 2024
monkey
Honestly I think it's fine in current tense
2024-02-05 03609, 2024
ApeKattQuest
start in past tense, then segue into present and end in future !!!!
2024-02-05 03614, 2024
ApeKattQuest
(joking)
2024-02-05 03650, 2024
aerozol
That sounded, sounds and will sound like a great idea ApeKattQuest
2024-02-05 03627, 2024
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ApeKattQuest
💪
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