reosarevok I am very sorry, and I hope that you doing well
2024-03-11 07140, 2024
reosarevok
No worries, I'll let you know when we're done
2024-03-11 07116, 2024
reosarevok
Ok, not around :) Thanks for the reviews!
2024-03-11 07124, 2024
reosarevok
Next: schema change announcement
2024-03-11 07129, 2024
yvanzo[m]
MohamedAli00949 (IRC): Shouldn’t be long.
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reosarevok
So, schema change should happen in two months. We should pick whether on May 13 or May 20
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reosarevok
yvanzo[m], bitmap, mayhem: ^
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mayhem
any reason not to choose the 13th?
2024-03-11 07159, 2024
reosarevok
We're planning a very small one AFAICT so probably not super important when to pick, but if we pick 13 I think we should announce super soon
2024-03-11 07111, 2024
bitmap
I assumed it would be the 13th, which is fine by me
2024-03-11 07114, 2024
mayhem
like by the 13th, yes.
2024-03-11 07114, 2024
reosarevok
So the only reason would be if we need more time to put the announcement together I guess
2024-03-11 07115, 2024
yvanzo[m]
like tonight or tomorrow
2024-03-11 07143, 2024
reosarevok
If not, then 13 seems good to me (that was also my first guess but then I saw we've done 17 and the like before, so wanted to check with you)
2024-03-11 07157, 2024
reosarevok
yvanzo[m]: does 13 seem good?
2024-03-11 07107, 2024
bitmap
the drafted blog post looked nearly ready to me (thanks reosarevok) so there shouldn't be any real delay needed to announce
2024-03-11 07110, 2024
yvanzo[m]
Also a question to zas, would it be reasonable to announce Solr 9 upgrade at the same time?
2024-03-11 07144, 2024
yvanzo[m]
(with the same release date in production, not just beta)
2024-03-11 07105, 2024
yvanzo[m]
reosarevok (IRC): 13, sure.
2024-03-11 07117, 2024
MohamedAli00949
yvanzo[m]: I am new here and i will chang it as soon as posible
2024-03-11 07119, 2024
reosarevok
Ok, I think we have a decision then :)
2024-03-11 07135, 2024
reosarevok
Thanks!
2024-03-11 07135, 2024
yvanzo[m]
To zas & atj actually ^
2024-03-11 07150, 2024
reosarevok
yvanzo[m]: can that be talked post-meeting? (as in, is that this topic or do we close?)
2024-03-11 07100, 2024
zas
yvanzo[m]: are we ready concerning SOLR for the 13th? It looks very short to me
2024-03-11 07109, 2024
yvanzo[m]
13th May
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zas
Ah! ok then :l)
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atj
May should be OK
2024-03-11 07138, 2024
reosarevok
Ok, now we're done I think
2024-03-11 07142, 2024
reosarevok
So thanks everyone for coming!
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monkey[m]
It may be OK
2024-03-11 07152, 2024
reosarevok
See you in a week!
2024-03-11 07103, 2024
reosarevok
Is May an orangutan? If so, Ook.
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reosarevok
</BANG>
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yvanzo[m]
Thanks everyone!
2024-03-11 07118, 2024
reosarevok
MohamedAli00949: now we're done :)
2024-03-11 07157, 2024
reosarevok
For BookBrainz issues, if that's what you're looking into, there's #bookbrainz too, but not sure if monkey[m] prefers helping people here, there, or it's the same to him
2024-03-11 07104, 2024
monkey[m]
I answered in private and on #bookbrainz:moviebrainz.org
2024-03-11 07115, 2024
yvanzo[m]
MohamedAli00949 (IRC): I just meant that the meeting shouldn’t be long for you to wait :) Now it is finished.
2024-03-11 07151, 2024
reosarevok
yvanzo[m], bitmap: available to talk schema change for a bit if you want :)
2024-03-11 07131, 2024
bitmap
cool
2024-03-11 07127, 2024
bitmap
I self-assigned MBS-13361, MBS-13337, MBS-12371 (the latter two because they seem related)
For the Perl upgrade, basically we will have to install it with perlbrew which can take a while, so I will go for making a pre-built base-image with Perl (and other requirements) installed.
2024-03-11 07106, 2024
yvanzo
I can push it a bit further to have pre-built images for Docker Compose too.
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bitmap
yvanzo: that would be nice
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bitmap
I don't expect the PG upgrade to require any other changes to the MBS images
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bitmap
(outside of the test images and upgrading psql, but we shall see)
If we want to have a Solr 9 upgrade at the same time, it means to have it deployed in production the previous week at least, and in beta a few more weeks before that.
2024-03-11 07102, 2024
reosarevok
For that ticket, yvanzo seems to know exactly what to do so maybe he can take it and it'd be quick? :)
2024-03-11 07105, 2024
yvanzo
It should be mostly transparent to MBS, but will take some time to rebuild on mirrors.
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rimskii[m]
omg im so sorry, I missed the meeting :___(
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bitmap
sure, if you feel there is enough time, we can prioritize any code review/testing period needed
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reosarevok
rimskii[m]: it's ok :) if you post your review now, I'm sure aerozol[m] can at least add it to the forum notes :)
2024-03-11 07157, 2024
rimskii[m]
sure thank you!
2024-03-11 07113, 2024
bitmap
re: MBS-13360, one thing that's unclear to me is where this detection will happen?
I have no idea, I copied the information from IRC, not mine.
2024-03-11 07119, 2024
MohamedAli00949
monkey[m]: Yeah, I have seen it Thanks again, and apologies for this noise
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rimskii[m]
For this week, I actually havent done anything significant regarding coding... (full message at <https://matrix.moviebrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/moviebrainz.org/mHzOJEvZRTNYZhdxvqpLiPTU>)
2024-03-11 07156, 2024
yvanzo
bitmap: “some patches were merged for PG14 that improve version tracking”
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bitmap
ok, if it was copied from something I wrote, then I don't recall what the idea was :)
2024-03-11 07112, 2024
pranav[m]
jasje (IRC): akshaaatt (IRC) aerozol can we please have a gmeet Tom or whenever u guys r free.. jasje (IRC) had some feedback reg my GSoC proposal and I thought it would be better if everyone involved could also join the meet. That would be awesome. Please let me know. Thanks!
2024-03-11 07124, 2024
pranav[m]
aerozol[m]: Damn. That’s very sad. 😔
2024-03-11 07110, 2024
yvanzo
bitmap, reosarevok: Also I checked that we cannot stay with Perl 5.34 as it won’t have any further security updates starting from the 20th of May, this year.
2024-03-11 07116, 2024
aerozol[m]
Very sad! But Lucy is not in that region 😮💨
2024-03-11 07144, 2024
reosarevok
Glad Lucy is ok!
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bitmap
yvanzo: good timing then
2024-03-11 07100, 2024
reosarevok
aerozol[m]: so, please add rimskii[m]'s review above to your meeting notes when you make them, thanks <3
2024-03-11 07110, 2024
reosarevok
(but no rush with that)
2024-03-11 07134, 2024
rimskii[m]
thanks!
2024-03-11 07149, 2024
reosarevok
yvanzo: agreed re: solr, that if you are willing to prod us a bit to review stuff we can certainly do that, assuming you think it's not going to be very last minute :)
2024-03-11 07146, 2024
jasje
pranav[m]: count me in!
2024-03-11 07156, 2024
reosarevok
"Upgrade everything" seems like a very good alternative to "change a lot of sql schema stuff we need to still implement as well" anyway :D
2024-03-11 07127, 2024
aerozol[m]
pranav: jasje: akshaaatt (IRC): I can do this time tomorrow? But feedback really should be public in the first place imo. Let us know what the meetings about so me and akshaaatt aren't going in blind 👍
2024-03-11 07137, 2024
aerozol[m]
Or now 😊
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reosarevok
Which reminds me, bitmap, yvanzo, if you find a bit of time to look at the event form react conversion, I can spend some time converting other forms as well after that one in between testing schema change things
bitmap, reosarevok: re Solr: Yes we can also have search improvements if we have beta early enough.
2024-03-11 07127, 2024
bitmap
so, I do think it will be possible to query this information, but unclear where to perform this step: perhaps a script that is executed on container start
2024-03-11 07103, 2024
Tarun_0x0
Hi reosarevok, I've been with the BookBrainz community since December 23rd. The Monday meeting looks super cool. Can I also be added in list for next week, please? =D
2024-03-11 07105, 2024
bitmap
since the collation version of libc or icu should not change unless a new image is deployed
2024-03-11 07153, 2024
reosarevok
Tarun_0x0: sure! :) Added you now
2024-03-11 07116, 2024
bitmap
yvanzo: since you will be quite busy with search the the Perl upgrade, I can look into it
2024-03-11 07117, 2024
reosarevok
So I'll call you on Monday
2024-03-11 07118, 2024
Tarun_0x0
thanks !!
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bitmap
(I don't anticipate the PG upgrade to require as much work)
2024-03-11 07112, 2024
bitmap
so, all tickets are assigned now
2024-03-11 07148, 2024
yvanzo
bitmap: If you aren’t too sure, we can also not announce it for now.
2024-03-11 07107, 2024
yvanzo
(And still do it if feasible in time.)
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yvanzo
It isn’t a schema change ticket anyway.
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bitmap
right, let's strike it from the blog post
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bitmap
but we can keep it in the fix version & I'll look into it
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yvanzo
Thanks!
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yellowhatpro
hi @yvanzo. If you got time, I would like to discuss on IA integration
At first glance, It seems a bit similar to coverart-archive project, right?
2024-03-11 07151, 2024
yellowhatpro
We are creating a new service for fetching metadata from IA collections
2024-03-11 07150, 2024
yellowhatpro
Other tasks like full db dumbs and re-archiving links seem like a script running in background as a cron job
2024-03-11 07126, 2024
reosarevok
yvanzo, bitmap: so are we happy with where we stand? I think there's nothing for me other than any needed changes on the stuff I've already put up for PRs, right?
2024-03-11 07120, 2024
bitmap
I think so. I just made some small adjustments to the blog draft
2024-03-11 07137, 2024
yellowhatpro
But I am not sure of this particular problem statement:
2024-03-11 07137, 2024
yellowhatpro
The Wayback Machine is able to take and render a snapshot of public webpages at any given time. It can be used for URL relationships added to the MusicBrainz database, and for references given in edit notes and annotations.
2024-03-11 07137, 2024
yellowhatpro
How do I proceed with this one?
2024-03-11 07147, 2024
yvanzo
We have to announce Solr 9 upgrade too in the same post.
2024-03-11 07102, 2024
bitmap
right. I'm happy with the rest of it if you can add that :)
2024-03-11 07111, 2024
reosarevok
yellowhatpro: you can ask the Archive to save a specific page, so I expect that's what it means?
2024-03-11 07107, 2024
reosarevok
(or alternatively, you can use the Archive to check if a version of a now gone page is still there, but that wouldn't work unless you know it's gone to begin with...)
2024-03-11 07111, 2024
reosarevok goes re-read the idea :)
2024-03-11 07147, 2024
reosarevok
Wait, this isn't about an idea?
2024-03-11 07152, 2024
reosarevok
Now I'm extra confused :D
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yellowhatpro
yeah but I was wondering how it is to be done with the rust binded project I was going on
2024-03-11 07102, 2024
reosarevok
Ooh, it's for the rust project, sorry
2024-03-11 07109, 2024
yellowhatpro
haha np reo
2024-03-11 07133, 2024
reosarevok
Well, one thing someone did in the past as a one-off was to ask the IA to save a snapshot of every URL we link to (which are a lot)
2024-03-11 07142, 2024
yvanzo
It’s the same in Rust, Go, Perl or .bf
2024-03-11 07154, 2024
reosarevok
Dunno if that's what yvanzo is thinking, but that seems like something that would be nice to do
2024-03-11 07128, 2024
yvanzo
yellowhatpro: Basically, extracting URLs from edit data and edit notes, for submitting to the Wayback Machine.
2024-03-11 07144, 2024
yellowhatpro
Oh I see
2024-03-11 07158, 2024
reosarevok
Make sure to skip those in edits submitted by users marked as spammers :D
2024-03-11 07119, 2024
yvanzo
Yes, there are some details like that
2024-03-11 07108, 2024
yellowhatpro
cool, so all I got to do is come up with some nice sql queries for filtering, and write rust scripts on top of these queries
2024-03-11 07124, 2024
yvanzo
There is no need to submit the same URL twice in the same day either.
2024-03-11 07149, 2024
yvanzo
There are probably some other things to check as well.
2024-03-11 07154, 2024
yellowhatpro
kind of what we are doing with reports
2024-03-11 07115, 2024
yellowhatpro
Other things like?
2024-03-11 07114, 2024
yvanzo
The SQL part is negligible for this task.
2024-03-11 07159, 2024
yvanzo
There is more work for connecting to the IA APIs, caching recently archived URLs…
2024-03-11 07132, 2024
yvanzo
Other things you will find.
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yellowhatpro
Cool, I should play around with IA apis a bit then
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yellowhatpro
since all the tasks seem to be running on background, should I consider it as a separate project, detached from the musicbrainz-server?
