monkey: When you are around, can you please give hints for moving BrainzBot & CB?
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yvanzo[m]
zas: Stopping MB web containers on old servers
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yvanzo[m]
(when you give the green light :)
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reosarevok[m]
!m yvanzo
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BrainzBot
You're doing good work, yvanzo!
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zas[m]
yvanzo: you can stop old containers, I adjusted weights for yamaoka
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yvanzo[m]
Ok, doing it now.
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yvanzo[m]
Done.
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zas[m]
We'll get some alerts for a while, since old nodes will not emit metrics anymore
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yvanzo[m]
For some reason, there is an unexpected instance of metabrainz-redis running on trille, in addition to the expected one running on hendrix. Not sure what to do about it.
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yvanzo[m]
Also prod.brainzbot-redis has been stopped 8 weeks ago…
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zas[m]
The instance on trille doesn't seem to be used at all.
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vedansh5[m]
Hi everyone! I’m seeking some guidance. I’ve spent the last few days familiarizing myself with the BookBrainz codebase and feel comfortable with it. However, I noticed that other MetaBrainz projects, like ListenBrainz and MusicBrainz, seem to be more active. Would it be better for me to focus on one of those projects, or should I continue contributing to BookBrainz? I'm comfortable working with JavaScript-related tasks. Thanks
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vedansh5[m]
for any advice!
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yvanzo[m]
The instance on hendrix doesn’t seem to be used either, according to container logs.
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yvanzo[m]
Hi vedansh5, BookBrainz is active and it is the project making the most extensive use (both server-side and client-side) of JavaScript, while other projects are using other languages server-side. There is a plan to develop it further by next year so you would join a growing task force really.
It would be great if we could finally solve this non-redundant redis thing. There are more alternatives in the wild now -> https://runcloud.io/blog/redis-alternatives (+redis sentinel / redis cluster)
It works perfectly, but that's not a cluster, so it has limits (2 nodes only and it needs external stuff for automatic failover). Now we have projects like https://valkey.io/ that are perhaps more interesting when it comes to scaling. Also redis cluster has some limitations (depending on the use it might not work for all, so that's application-dependent). + redis made recent "enshitification" moves.
(and still active but probably not backed by as many major actors)
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reosarevok[m]
mayhem[m]: I meeeeean...
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reosarevok[m]
It is Valencia, chances the PP took half the money for concrete and used it for their own envelopes?
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reosarevok[m]
(still, jeez)
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mayhem[m]
reosarevok[m]: of course.
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atj[m]
<zas[m]> "atj: any experience with redis..." <- No, I'm afraid not. Are you looking to remove a SPoF or to scale?
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zas[m]
Actually both. But SPoF removal is the priority.
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monkey[m]
<yvanzo[m]> "monkey: When you are around, can..." <- Hello yvanzo, not sure I can be of much help with either, and I can't recall ever moving either project myself. But if you have specific questions I might have an answer?
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yvanzo[m]
Hi monkey: I’m just asking because you're the most involved into maintaining their repositories even though it might be not much. There will be some downtime for each of these. Does it need to be announced specifically? Why is BrainzBot redis stopped? Why is MBSpotify archived?
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mayhem[m]
MBSpotify was superceded by... listenbrainz. no longer needed.
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monkey[m]
I'm afraid I don't have answers to these questions. I don't think CB downtime needs to be announced, but considering it impacts MB, LB and BB we could announce that reviews won't be working, if the downtime is planned to be long
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monkey[m]
Not sure what BrainzBot uses redis for, but I suppose stiring things to remember
